The Dismal Art of Whataboutery


Vforvernacular says: Friday, December 21, 2012 at 15:59 2 0 Rate …

Comment on The Dismal Art of Whataboutery by shield2012.

vforvernacular says:
Friday, December 21, 2012 at 15:59
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TW (@tartanwulver) says:
Friday, December 21, 2012 at 15:54

vforvernacular says:
Friday, December 21, 2012 at 15:44

And so the trolling nonsense derails the debate…….
Then again v, the current topic is ‘the Dismal Art of Whataboutery’, so it’s actually ON topic!


Ironic to see isn’t it?


You don’t like/approve of what I’m saying……….so it’s ‘trolling nonsense’??

shield2012 Also Commented

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If you are suggesting that the purpose of TSFM is to seek the truth, by asking the ‘difficult questions’, then I’m all for it. However, would you say that the majority of posts on here are simply seeking the truth?…………In my opinion, they’re not!

The agenda of TSFM is often questioned…….but only so it doesn’t end up down the same road as RTC.

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Yes “they are often the main topic of conversation on a blog relating to Scottish Football?”. However, it’s more often than not, the death of Rangers that is the topic of conversation.

The Dismal Art of Whataboutery
Shares were taken up by UK based investors only. £5.2m does NOT work out to be 1p per share. In my opinion, it’s closer to £10 per fan.

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A Sanity Clause for Xmas?
Barcabhoy says:
January 8, 2015 at 9:17 pm
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1 On why Rangers fans ( some not all ) are resistant to Ashley, then I would refer to the reaction to Bill Miller and Bill Ng as examples of why this is the case.

Rangers fans for decades wanted players from a specific background to represent the club.

Ashley as owner is exactly what Rangers need just now.


Barcabhoy, I spat my coffee out this morning, when I read your post, almost staining my cardigan.

Do you really believe that Ashley cares or has any interest in restoring Rangers? He cares about his onerous contracts and anything that might negatively influence them.

As for Rangers fans wanting “players from a specific background”. If you mean with a ‘background’ of specifically good ability and attitude, then I wholeheartedly agree!

Good one Barcabhoy.

Everything Has Changed
stmungo69 on Thursday, March 7, 2013 at 19:16
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He is simply on this site for one thing only – to suck the lifeforce out of any well reasoned polemic that further imperils the now noxious TRFC brand.
[Edited for crass stupidity]

Everything Has Changed
Auldheid, I can’t disagree with any of that and understand.

Also, i’m not saying TSFM should stop. I just can’t contribute much now and can’t bear some of the extreme chat that seems common now.

Some posters are probably right……time to take a break.

Everything Has Changed
blu on Thursday, March 7, 2013 at 15:13
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shield2012 says:
Thursday, March 7, 2013 at 14:54
shield, I’ve been one of those that welcomed a different view, challenging the common mindset of most posters on this blog. That inlcudes your posts but in recent times you seem to have moved to a position that says nothing wrong happened (almost straying in to trolling) – did you read the FTTT and LNS findings? You may feel that a little of bit of poor administration over ten years doesn’t amount to much but you must also surely wonder why Rangers serial poor administration and systematic non-completion of players registration was treated so differently to that of other clubs with single transgressions. Can you offer a view on that? I’ll understand if you’ve decided that it’s time to move on from all this but there is a lingering sesne of unfairness about this whole business that goes far beyond paranoid people from the east end of Glasgow.

You’re actually correct blu, I have noticed a difference in my posts, which have definitely swayed more towards TRFC being innocent. I just feel things have turned a bit too sinister with conspiracy theories and claims of a higher power in Scotland. I’m sorry but I can’t contribute anything to this kind of chat.

Neepheid, you’re asking me to explain why I think a corrupt establishment doesn’t exist? How could I possibly go about answering that? It’s like explaining why I don’t think David Ike’s theories are true – it’s just a conspiracy theory!

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What is the future for TSFM?

We’ve had the tax cases; winding up orders; Orlit; ‘nuclear’ info; independent commissions; and many other rumours. We’ve all enjoyed discussing it but, when you look back, none of it was accurate and obviously transpired through wishful thinking rather than fact.

It wasn’t that long ago when claims of corruption were frowned upon by big names on here. Also, any unsupported views of Lord Nimmo Smith, or other such figures, were discouraged.

Now? Well we have the majority of posters claiming that it’s all down to the establishment or a higher power that is present to aid TRFC. LNS is corrupt just as much as the SFA and other high powered organisations in Scotland.

2nd to these discussions, is talk of walking away.

As someone who doesn’t believe in this corrupt establishment, I view it as being absurd and quite laughable. I don’t thing i’m alone in this respect. I can’t find any common ground with most posters now.

Without credibility, TSFM has nothing and it’s losing it fast in my opinion.

Sorry but someone had to say it.

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