The Existence of Laws


He might be re-elected but that won’t stop the dam …

Comment on The Existence of Laws by Finloch.

He might be re-elected but that won’t stop the dam bursting.
And burst it will.

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The Existence of Laws
I’m in the “We are all complicit” camp.
But it is not and has never been something we have actively chosen to be.
And it is not going to be easy to sweep away.

Bear with me – I do have a suggestion ……

Complicity has crept up on us over the years for a variety of reasons and is deep seated and difficult to eradicate and change.
Being supporters of many different teams we are by nature competing. We have many interests, mostly opposing.
We are schooled not to like each other and have never really had to work together before and did not even know we could till last year.

That has made it easy for the establishment to grab the power and to keep the power.
From that position they have been able to divide and conquer (when needed) for the benefit of Scottish Football and their particular team.

That’s what has happened and is happening here.
That is why Ogilvie was re-elected with no alternative candidates even discussed.

The establishment’s implicit favouring of one particular club and way of thinking did not happen overnight.
It probably started unintentionally with West of Scotland demographics but has been deliberately sustained by a clever but simple policy of engineering a stream of “like minded” people into the key posts – aided and abetted by some green tokenism and the lack of any coordinated, unified or large enough opposition.
The demographic divide that the Park Gardens power enclave taps was more than a football divide historically – it reflects some deep seated West of Scotland issues where if you are not one side then you must be the other.

As an aside I sadly recall a discussion in the ‘90s in a premier league boardroom in Edinburgh, yes Edinburgh, after a game and a few glasses.
The discussion somehow saw two non-Glasgow club’s chairmen and some directors affirming which Glasgow club they preferred, i.e. whom they supported when it came to silverware after their own club had been eliminated!
And apart from one they all professed that if pushed (some not very hard) that they had Blue leanings. Something like 6 out of 7 or 8 on that occasion- not so much as Closet Blues with Blue underwear but certainly more favourable to the Blue cause in any given situation.
It surprised me at the time and showed to me the deep-seated tribalism in our game from the Glasgow power bases even tainting other clubs.
As an aside they also saw the lower leagues as “country cousins” with little to offer them or the sport.
They failed to see that size of crowd has nothing to do with ability or integrity of the people at a club.

We know different.
So we are now marooned at Complicitville.
To move forward we have to know why and address the reasons.

1 We were mostly ignorant of what was going on.
2 Most of us probably preferred the Blue team and therefore had an implicit affinity with the Blue Park-Gardens leanings.
3 We had no rallying point or cause.

So having asked you to bear with me above….
Here is a plan to think about and start a debate .It has to address these three issues throughout our game and our communites.

Rallying point.

We are Internet Bampots and all we need to do is organise what we do better.
If everyone knew what we know the world would be different – right.
So lets organise and tell them.

The Scottish Football Monitor should “publish’ a monthly update and send it like a publisher to a targeted database.
It would contain the kind of summary and analytical content we’d like to see in the MSM
Listing the unanswered questions
Links to source material.

It is pro-actively sent to
All senior football clubs (Boards, to fan groups)
The SFA SFL and SPL and their affiliates
All politicians
All MSM contacts

It is for the fans, by the fans, for the fans – using transparency to fight our endemic complicity.

No more ignorance/No fear or favour/TSFM the rallying point.

The Existence of Laws
Look Two Squirrels!

First let me say that I think that there should be a pyramid system and I am ashamed of the racism and sectarianism in our sport.
(Our administrators have had years and years and years to do something about both of these squirrels).

Look a Little beneath the Facade!

Whoever is attending the SFA AGM today from Wick Academy and Ross County in the North right down to Stranraer and Berwick in the South.
So this applies to all of you.

Don’t let the sleazy ones tell you they are dealing with the squirrels therefore are fit for purpose.

All is not well with them and how they operate and is going to get a whole lot worse.
It will suck you in and disillusioned fans don’t spend as much.

Don’t ignore what you already know even though its not yet in the public domain because of the way our MSM works.

Don’t ignore your instincts.

Dont blindly accept that cover-ups between old pals are good for our game, they are not.

Your fans are stakeholders but you’d never know it.
And your, (our SFA) is complicit in one of the biggest corruption events in our country.

The mess is already bad but it is just going to get worse and it is not even on the patronising agenda you have for today.

It will only take one honest club to stand up and start the clean up and it nearly happened a year ago.

There needs to be a real investigation.
There needs to be suspensions of several highly paid executives on full pay or gardening leave.

There needs to be (to quote the SFA chief exec “Transparency”)

Things like the 5 way agreement need to be published – before Charlotte does it for you.

…. and as for Ogilvie and Regan

Look Two Dead Men Walking!

The Existence of Laws
pilgrim1888 says:
June 10, 2013 at 1:23 pm

It is my understanding that Tomorrow at the SFA annual general meeting clubs will be asked to vote for a new SFA President. Campbell Ogilvie is standing for re election. The same Campbell Ogilvie who has admitted participating in an EBT scheme whilst at Rangers.


I read the Sunday Times yesterday and saw two very positive SFA pieces.
Amazingly positive and upbeat and praising the SFA for the money IMG have negotiated for future Scotland internationals and also Regan’s commitment to anti sectarianism and also the new pyramid system.

This is all puffery designed to tell the clubs, our clubs, that they have never had it so good.

And despite the expert choreography it is outrageous.

The very same clubs who have suffered financial losses because the SFA covered up some discrepancies at the dead club to keep its revenue coming in (Until Mr McC lost in the wrong round) need to grasp the nettle and ask the proper and telling questions about questionable decisions by the SFA .
These decisions have prejudiced the revenue for them and their shareholders.

In fact they have a fiduciary duty to do this.

Our clubs must see through the endemic SFA corruption and nonsense and tomorrow is a good time to start the clear out.
It will only take one honest chairman who knows or senses what has really been going on.

An interim president should be elected a simple brief.

To create a transparent SFA that is fit for purpose.

So Peter, Rod, Stewart, etc please start the revolution.

You know (and we all know too) that the dam is about to burst.

Please do the right thing.

Ogilvie and Regan on “Gardening Leave” and a new interim team.

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It Is Better To Offer No Excuse Than A Bad One
I heard today that Craig Graham  the Spartans chairman is awarded an MBE in the New Year Honours list. 
I’m pleased for Craig and Spartans. 
Craig took a Corinthian and undisciplined club going nowhere fast, rooted it into a previously ignored community and has achieved some incredible health and social goals deep into that community using football as glue.
other clubs are now slowly learning from his vision and Scottish football is better for what he has done  
Yes he could have been and should have been knighted

but to paraphrase our old pal Red Lichtie
Scottish Football needs more Craig Graham’s. 

It Is Better To Offer No Excuse Than A Bad One
DECEMBER 20, 2017 at 09:04Given all the recent conjecture re PSC and potential new loans, I am still wondering what exactly it is that King is getting out of his involvement in T’Rangers.
Some maybes…

Its a legitimate business with amazing annual revenue generation capacity and a very committed customer base and friends on high.

It was a unique opportunity to talk down a share price to the disadvantage of some mug punters and to get significant control level shareholding quite cheaply. 

With an inside well-coiffeured friend in situ he had access to knowledge most people wouldn’t have access to.

There are various sub companies in the group where personal unseen revenue streams might be forthcoming.

It might even be a good way to repatriate monies from South Africa or maybe elsewhere into the UK or indeed somewhere else.

Chairman of an establishment club is also a nice position to have if you have an ego that needs constant tending and you know that no media outlet will ever look at what is really happening under the bonnet. 

Maybe there is also an opportunity to take advantage of some other directorial shareholders, who may be real Rangers men, but are just not be as incisive with the particulars skills G&SL seems to have built his wealth upon.

And finally if there is a sort of nod and wink understanding in certain quarters that when the time is right that SDM and a new consortium will come to the rescue then the shares will be worth having.

Or control of a situation that needs Blair Nimmo or Bryan Jackson called in?

But what do I know anyway?

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John Clark – Have you been tapped up?

Fans for Judicial Review – Counsel Opinion
A few initial thoughts on the counsels view that “There is not a case in law to force the SFA to comply”.

i.e. The SFA has the right not to have a review because there is no precedent.

(I wish Paul McConville was still with us).

Firstly there may be no precedent and yes in law that makes it difficult but surely there must always be a first to make a precedent.

Could this be a first?

Then two thoughts are about following the money because that may also be a route that offers traction.

As someone who paid money to watch the game over the period do I personally and or jointly with other fans who similarly paid have the right to take action either against my club or the SFA?

Are there precedents here?

And on a larger scale if our government have provided funds in any way during the period do we as fans have the right to take action against the government or the government the right to take action against the SFA?

There will almost certainly be precedents here because Government money always comes with built-in controls and conditions attatched.

And looking forward will the Scottish Government ever agree to be seen to provide future funds to an organisation which has highly questionable internal and no external controls?

Who Is Conning Whom?
So the Derek McInnes “Tapping by Media” project failed well after the 11th hour when the media had told us he was already choosing curtains in Glasgow.
The Ibrox club and their fans were convinced by their chairman’s statement last week at the AGM and the media barrage too and last night were in shock and caught napping – hence the stupid press statement and attempt to make it known to us all that they didn’t really want him anyway and were just having a concomitant kick at the McInnes/Docherty tyres.

However that isn’t all that happened yesterday.

There was a wee meeting at Hampden called “The SFA Congress and Convention”.

Its a kind of series of regular very important meetings where everyone who is valued in football gets invited to see what a great job Stewart Regan and the SFA are undertaking on our behalf. 
And let me say that there is no doubt that some of what The Congress seeks to do and does will indeed be for the good but we the fans wouldn’t know it because we were not invited.
This is a paragraph from this weeks SFSA (Scottish Football Supporters Association) newsletter that I received having filled in their recent survey on Scottish Football.

The SFA Convention this ThursdayOn Thursday, member clubs will gather at Hampden for the 2017 Scottish FA convention to share best practice, discuss current trends and participate in workshops geared towards improving the game:  according to their publicity on social media. Sadly the SFA has failed to invite any representative from Scotland’s only national fans organisation, the SFSA. We had anticipated that given the huge amount of unpaid work that we do for fans and clubs and being Scotland’s representatives at the Football Supporters Europe network our presence might have been merited. Despite claiming it has invited the “football family” the SFA have missed yet another opportunity to engage properly with ordinary football supporters. Could it possibly be related to the independent academic research that we organised last month that dared to criticise the governance of the game or maybe the invite was just lost in the post?
The failure to engage with fans is nonsense.

SFSA’s recent research asked some real questions from over 16000 bona fide Scottish fans. This was an incredible response that provided an incredible insight into what we the fans really think.
I know that Supporters Direct Scotland who are funded by the SFA were there as valued guests but SFSA who have people like Henry McLeish (of the report) and Cathy Jamieson (of Bernard son) on their board were not even invited.

Given that economic analysis of revenue generation confirms that in Scotland the real stakeholders and economic generators are us the fans
We are the people (Sic) who pay for season books and buy merchandise and pies and fund the clubs and their wages.
The people who get to see English Internationals on council telly but not our own country’s.
The people whose game seems to only have Betting Company Sponsors.
The people whose administrators cannot organise things like properly numbered balls in their top cup competitions so that there are two Brora Rangers in some draws!

Why were the SFSA not invited as valued members and contributors to your Congress Stewart?

Are the real fans and their views such a threat to your Congress and Convention?

Is there a danger they might ask questions that don’t fit with your pre determined script?

And a wee hint to the SMSM
Isn’t there a story in this?

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