The Immortality Project – or – Death and Denial – Guest Post by Humble Pie
Death has a tendency to put everything else into perspective.
My family recently suffered a bereavement. It wasn’t a sudden death but it was still far too quick and far too soon for any of us to get our heads around. As our loved one’s illness progressed, each of us, in our own way, began to prepare for the inevitable. In the end, whilst it was not unexpected, it was nevertheless very traumatic, for everyone concerned.
Grief is a strange and often debilitating set of emotions. Even now, a few months on, when the intense sadness and tears have given way (mostly) to disbelief, we still find it hard to fully comprehend what has happened. We might never completely ‘come to terms’ with that fact, however, we do accept that it DID happen, much as we all wish that it hadn’t.
Many of you will be familiar with the Kubler-Ross model of the five stages of grief; Denial, Anger, Bargaining, Depression and Acceptance. Well, I am aware of having experienced each of these stages over the last year, as well as a couple of others which I wasn’t prepared for (a lot of personal reflection, a little guilt and a not insignificant amount of pain).
It seems to me that the Rangers supporters have been purposefully ensnared in an interminable cycle of the first two stages of KR; alternating between the denial of the death of Rangers and anger at what they feel has been done to their beloved club then back again to denial. This, as any first year psychology student will tell you, is a very unhealthy state of mind which, if not addressed, can quickly lead to physiological and behavioural problems.
At its lowest level, for example, people throughout the ages have continued to set places at the dinner table for their long-dead loved ones. They know in their hearts that the person has died but are comforted by the familiarity of doing the same things that they have always done. However, in extreme cases people have even kept and maintained the actual cadavers of the deceased, dressed them, talked to them and watched TV with them, in a state of absolute denial.
In archaeology, accepting and recognising the inevitability of death through conducting ceremonial burial services is considered to be one of the very first signs of a civilised people. You see, grief is a uniquely human and cathartic process i.e. it can produce ‘a feeling of being cleansed emotionally, spiritually, or psychologically as a result of an intense emotional experience’.
In short, grief is ultimately a good thing which leads you through a series of natural psychological steps towards acknowledgement of an unalterable situation, allowing you to take stock, re-evaluate and start to move on with your own life in a positive way.
That is what should have happened with the fans of the old Rangers.
Instead, this ‘never-ending cycle of the undead’ was positively encouraged by those many unscrupulous individuals who saw a way of making a fast buck from maintaining the ‘Then, Now and Forever’ illusion. Worse still, this resurrection fantasy is being facilitated by the very people whom we have entrusted to stop this kind of thing from happening in the first place. If only the SFA or the MSM had told them the truth, they might have had a chance to actually face up to the situation.
Unfortunately, these two bodies were so complicit in Rangers demise, so right up to their necks in the brown smelly stuff, that they were too afraid to face the inevitable anger which would have rightly come their way. So, they made up grim fairy tales to feed to the bereaved souls about non-existent ‘holding companies’, the ethereal ‘club’ which transcends death and by suggesting that it is ‘all a matter of opinion’.
Ernest Becker, in his 1973 Pulitzer Prize winning book ‘The Denial of Death’, posits that “human civilization is no more than an elaborate, symbolic defence mechanism against the knowledge of our own mortality”. This fear of death acts as an emotional and intellectual response to our basic survival instincts.
‘By embarking on what Becker refers to as an ‘immortality project’, in which a person creates or becomes part of something which they feel will last forever, the person feels they too have become part of something eternal; something that will never die, compared to their physical body that will die one day’. When this ‘immortality project’ is threatened it leads inevitably to fear, depression, loss of identity and sense of purpose.
In that case, the initial reaction of the fans to the imminent demise of Rangers was entirely predictable and understandable. “No way, this can’t happen to us, we are the people”. However, as soon as the full realisation of their club’s inexorable slide into liquidation began to sink in, came the expected anger. But towards whom should their righteous wrath be directed?
“Who did this to us, who are these people?” they cried. “Not I”, said Sir Murray of the Mint, “for I was duped”, “Nor I”, said President Ogilvie, “for it was never my role”. “Nor I”, said Mr Smith, “for I never knew nothing or nothing”. “Not us”, squealed the media monkeys in unison, “for that’s what we were told”, “Nor us”, said the SPL “it was nothing to do with us”.
“Who then?, we demand to know who these people are”, howled the horrified hordes. “T’was the Whyte knight”, they all concurred, “he alone caused this calamity”. “And the bampots”, sneered the slimy slug. “And the taxman”, puffed the pundits. “And the unseen hand of Mr Lawwell”, whispered the bilious bears from the safety of their den.
There were even those who tried to warn them, not least Hugh Adam, Phil Mac and RTC but they didn’t want to know. Even when their very own Messrs Green and Traynor spelt out, in no uncertain terms, that liquidation meant the death of their club, still they chose wilful ignorance. The MSM, with access to the same information, encouraged them to keep their heads firmly ensconced, ostrich stylee, on the banks of that ironically blue and white river in Egypt. Which just goes to show ‘you can lead a lamb to knowledge but you can’t make it think’
The point though is that the Rangers fans have heard the truth and once you have heard something you cannot unhear it. Even if you reject it, even if you deny it, it gnaws away at the back of your mind, infecting your subconscious.
Almost a year ago, I posted the following on TSFM. http://theinternetbampot.wordpress.com/2012/09/ in which I postulated that the SFA were too frightened to say anything which might imply that The Rangers were a new club.
Looking back at that post, I am amazed at how little the landscape has changed.
A year on and it has become apparent that the corporate cancer that destroyed Rangers has continued to metastasize in its new host. Charlotte’s revelations may have shown us that the rabbit hole goes much deeper than we first suspected. However, in my humble opinion, the information provided has only succeeded in ‘poisoning the well’ and deflecting attention from the main culprits in this disaster. Layer upon layer of complexity has been added to an already opaque story and the majority of her utterances appear designed to engage the more enquiring minds on this forum and consume their excess mental energy.
I know that some people are bored with this ‘debate’ but, to my mind, the single most important step for the redemption of Scottish football is the fan’s acceptance that The Rangers, who currently ply their trade in the SPFL First Division, are a new club. Once they have accepted that then everything else that they perceive has happened to them will begin to make sense. They will see that rather than everyone having a fly kick at them when they were down, most were actually trying to help them. It will also dawn on them that the very people who have been telling them that there is an anti-Rangers conspiracy against them are actually the same ones who are screwing them over.
Rangers were not relegated to div 3, The Rangers applied as a new club and were granted entry into the bottom tier of Scottish football. They are not banned from European competition, merely ineligible as a new club without the requisite financial ‘history’. Any reference to ‘rulings’ from ECA, ASA, the BBC Trust and any internal or so-called ‘independent’ enquiries are completely irrelevant, as none of these bodies are the final arbiter in this case. Scots Law is clear that there is no distinction between club and company after incorporation, when the company dies the club dies with it. That is not a matter of opinion, it is a matter of fact.
Sooner or later The Rangers fans are going to realise this fact and when they do, there will be hell to pay. Until they do, their new club can never become truly cleansed. Only then can they move on and only then can they join together with fans of other clubs to root out the real cancer at the heart of Scottish football. That’s why the MSM and the SFA are still petrified to say anything. In the meantime the real creators of this disaster are sneakily positioning themselves further and further away from the scene of the crime.
I am sure the majority of us would happily accept a new Rangers, cleansed of its financial, emotional and supremacist baggage. A club that all decent Rangers fans could support without feeling any guilt about Rangers downfall or that they were being taken for mugs. The prospect of a new dawn in Scottish football, where sporting integrity took primacy and clubs lived within their means was very real. However, as usual the SFA couldn’t miss an opportunity to miss an opportunity.
The truth is that Scottish football is in the state it is in, not because Rangers died but because those with the power and mandate to effect the prognosis sat back and did nothing. I am sure that they believe that ‘time heals all wounds’ and that the longer this injustice is allowed to stand the more likely it will be accepted by the man in the street. No doubt the authorities feel it is in the national interest to ‘let sleeping dogs lie’. However I cannot accept this. I believe that it is vital that we are able to face up to reality so we can move on for the benefit of all football supporters.
Scottish football is at a crossroads right now, I think we all feel it. Rampant corruption has become so mainstream that many of our fellow supporters have began to accept this as the norm. However, it just doesn’t sit right with me and I suspect that many regular contributors and readers of this blog feel likewise.
We have quite lost our way and we live in a society which spends vast amounts of money paying people like Jack Irvine to ensure that we stay lost. The mainstream media treat us like little imbeciles and demand that we conform to their assumed ‘professional superiority’. The PR machine plays up to our stereotypes and feeds our fantasies while the poorest people pay to swallow their poisonous propaganda and relentless trivia.
So what can we do ? Clearly, battering out a few blog posts and strongly worded letters to the various authorities involved has been rewarded by the square root of FA.
How can we make this an opportunity for growth rather than contributing to the destruction of Scottish football ? It is not good enough to tear down a system unless we have a better system to replace it. However, I believe that it is not the system itself which is broken. It is that those charged with administering the system are hopelessly corrupted, hugely conflicted and unable to apply their rules without fear or favour.
By their incapacity and inaction (wilful or otherwise) the SFA have facilitated a motley crew of various spivs, chancers and con-artists to glean the last few meagre pickings from the bones of the emaciated loyal supporters of this new club purporting to be the once mighty Rangers. They have permitted these ne’er-do-wells to collectively appropriate many tens of millions of pounds from the Rangers fans, the creditors and the public purse. They have already allowed this corporate malignancy to spread to a new host, ‘The Rangers’, and the absence of ‘moral hazard’ makes it more likely that the disease will continue to spread.
Benjamin Franklin once said, “‘Nothing can be said to be certain, except death and taxes.”
Someone else once said, “The wages of sin are death, but by the time taxes are taken out, it’s just sort of a tired feeling.”
I sense that we are all beginning to get tired of this. It is time to stand together, all football fans, face the facts and direct our anger against the officers of the SFA who have allowed this sham to develop into a catastrophe.
I have no doubt that my humble opinions expressed here will raise the ire of many deluded souls. However, I am comfortable in the knowledge that the only people who get mad at you for speaking the truth are those that are living a lie.
RIP Big Man.
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Bartin Main MBE @SirBartin 22m
Imran Ahmad takes the Rangers Football Club Ltd to court http://www.scotcourts.gov.uk/rolls/supreme/lists/r130926_024.htm …
Questions
As Ahmed was employed by the RFCL, do they have enough money to defend the case?
Is all the ticket income and the sponsorship deals etc going through the books of RFCL or RIFC?
IIRC the assets of Ibrox and MP were at last look still in the name of RFCL
Any chance of the switcheroo taking place shortly to keep the assets out of Ahmeds reach?
By having Ahmed challenge RFCL for circa £5m (IIRC) does this give the spivs a legitimate excuse to transfer all the income and assets to the Plc so they can do away with ‘the club’ when and if required?
Or am I just making mischief?? 🙂
RANGERS Football Club has tonight released the following statement:
Rangers fans are now aware of a Court of Session action brought by the Club’s former Commercial Director Imran Ahmad and in response has released the following:
“Mr Ahmad’s lawyers have lodged his summons at the Court of Session. This is simply a procedural step which the Club anticipated. The Club’s lawyers are of the view that his claim is unfounded in fact and in law and is likely to fail.
“They have advised the court that the claim will be defended robustly. Mr Ahmad’s claim is for £500,000 in alleged unpaid bonuses and not the sum previously claimed in his pre action correspondence which was in excess of £3 million.”
sorry folks
was posting charlottes tweet from my phone on my way home. here is the proper link
http://www.scribd.com/mobile/doc/171190071
who is Tim grogan and Stephen keys?
wottpi says:
September 26, 2013 at 5:52 pm
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By having Ahmed challenge RFCL for circa £5m (IIRC) does this give the spivs a legitimate excuse to transfer all the income and assets to the Plc so they can do away with ‘the club’ when and if required?…
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Don’t know wottpi.
But your observation also raises a point from Ahmad’s perspective.
If he is seriously chasing GBP5M – which TRFC Ltd probably doesn’t have – would it not be in his immediate interest to request the judge to place an amount of TRFC monies in escrow – due to the threat of an insolvency event down Govan way ?
…basically the same route that Bain took before he dropped his own claim.
[He had GBP500K of RFC monies ringfenced, IIRC.]
A lot of really fascinating discussion on @Pmacgiollabhain’s twitter today. There’s also a bit of an unusual discussion about Danish pastry on the timeline after the tweet below. I’d just like to point out, I am NOT one of the those tweeting about Pâtisserie Danoise, even though I am quite well qualified on that subject 🙂
@Pmacgiollabhain
To various: A club licence is not the same as a membership. A club without a licence can still play football.
Membership of an Assoc is key
6:25pm – 26 Sep 13
Tif Finn – I was providing an abstract from the decision that I thought would be helpful. From memory though, these five are players.
Tim Grogan – Deloitte
Stephen Keys – Cenkos
Have been out on patrol meeting a few shady contacts and have just come back to Charlotte’s latest.
I must say I nearly burst my sides when they cut to their Media Expert aka Jabba.
His considered opinion seemed to me to be: ‘Kin sumdy naw dae sumpin, say sumpin?’
No wonder they had to rehire Irvine 😆
http://www.scribd.com/doc/171190071/Licence-Issues
I am sure the Court of Session will be suitably impressed by the Rangers offishal statement that they have been advised: “The claim will be defended robustly’.
Perhaps someone ought to tell Ibrox that their Lordships couldn’t give a stuff whether Rangers defend the case ‘robustly’ or not. IMO it sounds like a settlement the night before or on the steps of the court with a confidentiality agreement.
Why do I think it will still be leaked by tweeters known or unknown 🙄
scottc on September 26, 2013 at 6:24 pm
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blu says:
September 26, 2013 at 3:07 pm
Auldheid says:
September 26, 2013 at 2:51 pm
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It’s here: http://www.financeandtaxtribunals.gov.uk/Aspx/view.aspx?id=6850
(iv) Footballers: guaranteed bonuses
210. Finally, Mr Thornhill noted five cases where peculiarly trust payments were
made in respect of guaranteed bonuses. These relate to Messrs Selby, Inverness,
Doncaster, Barrow, and Furness, as confirmed by his instructing solicitor’s letter of
29 September 2011. The Appellants concede that in these cases there is a sufficient
nexus with a contractual right to create a tax liability (paras 19 and 20 of Supplementary Skeletal Argument of 4 November 2011).
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I could very well be havering but was this not the bonus for the Euro game out in Cyprus?
Again from memory Rangers accepted there was liability at the FTT but from what Bishopp said Rangers haven’t accepted the tax figure plus probably penalties imposed by Hector. Could have been part of a ploy to have the whole thing remitted back to the original FTTT but Bishopp wasn’t playing ball.
His recent decision was very interesting and seems to have quietened those who declaring Poone was an idiot and the two legal duffers were the majority and therefore must be right. Seems they might have actually just bottled taking a decision.
Now – I wonder what could be the reason for that? Thank Gawd for Heidi 😆
ecobhoy says:
September 26, 2013 at 6:57 pm
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That sounds about right – The Bishopp will be asked to determine the quantum of the tax etc to be paid on the basis that these 5 cases were conceded by Thornhill and that was accepted by the FTT. Although in fact the FTT did not technically dismiss those appeals as I assume they were withdrawn. Any roads I will find out when I attend the UTT hearing.
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ecobhoy says:
September 26, 2013 at 6:32 pm
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That’s a bit of worried internal correspondance posted by CF. I don’t quite see the connection between signing off accounts by the auditors and the enquiry into Charles though, unless, of course, there was the real possibilty that some serious issues would be uncovered that were not quite in tune with the statements in the accounts.
So does the club in residence at Ibrox have an SFA licence at this time, or merely membership?
ecobhoy says:
September 26, 2013 at 8:14 am
And always when I consider the position of ordinary Rangers supporters today I think back to when Celtic was a couple of short hours away from oblivion. Many many of my fellow fans were unable to grasp the enormity of what was happening and switched-off and later others refused to accept the medicine required for survival. So we might like to think as Celtic supporters we are superior to our City rivals in every way whereas, if truth be told, there are many similarities.
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Eco, I would have answered earlier but demands of work and all that. I really can’t agree with your views but I do respect your right to hold them. I can vividly recall Celtic’s darkest hour but for me our fans were far more switched on in terms of seeing what was happening, and trying to take positive action for change. At a time the Internet was broadly unavailable the Celtic fans were able to mobilise themselves and played a huge part in the eventual change. If any Celtic fan did sit back and think all would be well no matter what, it was perhaps because they saw the very real and genuine figures of McCann, Haughey, Weisfeld etc waiting in the wings.
As for Celtic fans feeling superior, I have only one thing to say to that. When Rangers fans see themselves only as the equal of all other fans I will be happy. For the most part there is only one group that needs to get real in terms of a superiority complex – I’d say that much is obvious.
I must have this wrong…
The FD – Stockbridge – is raising serious concerns about TRFC potentially ‘losing its SFA Licence’.
My immediate take was that he is highlighting a potential ‘going concern’ risk re: the club being unable to fulfill the licensing criteria.
…and he has copied this email to someone from the auditors Deloittes, [Tim Grogan]. 🙄
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As with all CF material it is worth looking a wee bit beyond the mere words to get a flavour ow what is actually happening behind the veil so to speak.
http://www.scribd.com/doc/171190071/Licence-Issues
On Friday the 19 April RIFC Plc Finance Director Brian Stockbridge warned fellow Board Members that if they didn’t submit audited accounts for the period ending August 2012 to the SFA by the end of April 2013 they would be in breach of SFA Rules and would lose their SFA licence he reckoned.
Let’s ignore the 7 month unaudited accounts already published which consolidated the TRFCL accounts.
Let’s also ignore that Stockbridge said he would seek an extension from the SFA.
Let’s also ignore whether the extension was given or whether the audited accounts were ever submitted.
Let’s also ignore whether they lost their SFA licence – OK am stoopid!
What was really important according to Stockbridge IMO was the effect of the media announcement connected to the Pinsent Masons lookie lookie into Green and the FD stated: ‘It is important that this investigation is concluded swiftly or we may cause much bigger issues.’
OK let’s ignore what those bigger issues might be.
So what happened next? Well cometh the hour cometh the man in the shape of ‘media expert’ Jim Traynor – what a belter!
What did he tell Stockbridge at almost 4 o’clock on Friday 19 April 2013? He gave an answer which will go down in PR history as how not to terrify your client by screaming ‘HELP’ and sending a Titanic SOS imploring: ‘Kin sumdy naw dae sumpin, say sumpin?’
Judge for yourself by reading the words of the expert: ‘In my opinion, the management of this announcement regarding Charles would be helped greatly if we could name a new chief executive, or at least reveal the identity of an interim one.
‘By doing that we would be able to avoid another media feeding frenzy. So, if it is at all possible I believe we should make some kind of announcement. If there is someone capable of stepping in, either on a permanent basis or short term we should endeavour to get the name out there.’
BTW Irvine stop laughing from the cheap seats!
Because by next day Saturday 20 April 2013 Richard Wilson of The Herald let it out that Craig Mather was the MAN and by early Saturday afternoon Rangers fan websites were discussing Mather’s appointment as interim CEO.
So there might be those who laugh at Traynor and still can’t believe his poacher turned gamekeeper switch but within hours of his demand for a diversionary CEO he had got one and all has been well with Rangers ever since.
It’s a strange old world when late on a Friday afternoon no one on the Rangers Board seemed to have a clue that they had a sterling candidate as interim CEO in their midst and to be fair neither did Traynor – he jist wanted a boady fur deflection purposes and he certainly goat it and so well has Craig fitted the role that he has been made full-time CEO.
One thing about Rangers under fleetfoot Green is that when they need to move you cannae see them for the moonbeam dust and no one is faster than old Dunlop green stripe himself.
Oh perhaps I should have said that Green actually stood down as Rangers CEO on 19 April 2013 – it really is just as well that Mather was to hand to steady the ship. Otherwise I think I would have heard ma mammy say: ‘they couldnae run a menage’. Menagerie perhaps but defo not a menage.
upthehoops says:
September 26, 2013 at 7:45 pm
I have no wish to labour the point but I have very different memories of a significant and vociferous section of the Celtic support who were very unhappy about Fergus and how he dragged the club out of the dark ages in many ways.
And I have to say that when he was booed by fans that was the only time I have nearly walked away from Celtic and if I had gone I would never have returned.
However we have moved on and I truly hope that a lot of Rangers fans will be able to make a similar journey but, at the end of the day, they are the ones who have got to want it badly enough and that remains to be seen.
ecobhoy
I winder how much its costing Rangers to have someone monitoring Charlotte the Harlot’s twitter feed, so that FFW can be alerted to request that scribd remove a doc ?
Way more than the cost of EGM?
If anybody is interested there is a World Cup qualifier on BBC Alba tonight, the second half is about to start, with Scotland winning 3-0 and have had two goals ruled out for offside. It has been quite a good game from a Scottish perspective, so hopefully this doesn’t jinx it.
Danish Pastry says:
September 26, 2013 at 7:31 pm
ecobhoy says:
September 26, 2013 at 6:32 pm
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That’s a bit of worried internal correspondance posted by CF. I don’t quite see the connection between signing off accounts by the auditors and the enquiry into Charles though, unless, of course, there was the real possibilty that some serious issues would be uncovered that were not quite in tune with the statements in the accounts.
So does the club in residence at Ibrox have an SFA licence at this time, or merely membership?
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Just a couple of tiny emails which betray so much of the utter shambles that is Rangers. You just couldn’t make it up because no one would believe you.
Well except for the SFA – they truly are awesome! How many stakes can be driven through their black heart before they are declared unfit for purpose and dragged off to the Knacker’s yard 🙄
TheGamesABogey says:
September 26, 2013 at 8:29 pm
If anybody is interested there is a World Cup qualifier on BBC Alba tonight, the second half is about to start, with Scotland winning 3-0 and have had two goals ruled out for offside. It has been quite a good game from a Scottish perspective, so hopefully this doesn’t jinx it.
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Sitting watching it and enjoying it 😀
scapaflow says:
September 26, 2013 at 8:29 pm
ecobhoy
I wonder how much its costing Rangers to have someone monitoring Charlotte the Harlot’s twitter feed, so that FFW can be alerted to request that scribd remove a doc ? Way more than the cost of EGM?
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Look we have a £100 million turnover and 500 million fans – we don’t do counting pennies ❗
Can someone, anyone confirm to me that it is no longer necessary to submit audited accounts to the SFA? If so, why do other clubs bother?
TheGamesABogey says:
September 26, 2013 at 8:29 pm
Watching it, shame Mr Strachan can’t pick a few of these players…
ecobhoy says:
September 26, 2013 at 8:17 pm
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I do not deny there was an element of the Celtic support who were anti-McCann. I give at least some the benefit of the doubt as all they read and heard every day were hostile pundits and hacks decrying McCann and lauding Murray. Others should have known better though.
StevieBC says:
September 26, 2013 at 7:49 pm
I must have this wrong… The FD – Stockbridge – is raising serious concerns about TRFC potentially ‘losing its SFA Licence’. My immediate take was that he is highlighting a potential ‘going concern’ risk re: the club being unable to fulfill the licensing criteria.…and he has copied this email to someone from the auditors Deloittes, [Tim Grogan]. 🙄
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My Boy – you have to ask yourself when are audited accounts not really audited accounts?
Simples when they’re for the SFA and therefore non-statutory audited accounts. the full bhoona stautory audited accounts are a real nuisance because they seem to think you should be able to show that you can survive for 12 months into the future 😆
Just as well the SFA isn’t interested in that kind of clap-trap 🙄
Is it just me or have ‘Lotte’s latest offerings been removed already? Initially it was a “HT-500” error now been replaced with a statement stating that content removed at the direction of FFW?!
“Dearest Charlotte,
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If you could be so kind as to release documents at a more opportune time, thereby allowing me to avail myself in your latest offerings I should be ever so grateful…”
Somebody tickling the right tootsies…?! 😆
I have just sent an email to Big Peter demanding we sign-up the whole of the Scottish Women’s Team who are now 5-0 up.
Brilliant perforance and some really good moves and football
Is my new found mate Tailofthebank on? 😀
Good home draw against St Johnstone? The lad May will be one to watch – should Tommy Wright choose to play him of course! I was impressed with him when he came on at Celtic Park last week.
causaludendi says:
September 26, 2013 at 8:48 pm
Is it just me or have ‘Lotte’s latest offerings been removed already? Initially it was a “HT-500″ error now been replaced with a statement stating that content removed at the direction of FFW?!
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Seems to me the speed of removal equates to the nuclear megaton rating – this one was high ❗
ecobhoy says:
September 26, 2013 at 8:50 pm
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that would be the first huddle the Ref and his two assistants joined in with!
ecobhoy says:
September 26, 2013 at 8:50 pm
6-0 now, and that’s 3 goals ruled out. Still can’t work out why the third one was not allowed.
Watched the 1st half in the pub.Watching the 2nd in the hoose.
The ladies are doing us proud.
Hopefully WGS is taping this and shows it to his squad the next time they meet up.
Since FFW are working late I wonder if they might be assisting in completing the Annual Return for TRFCL which has been submitted without giving any previous shareholding history as legally required.
Silly Me ❗
We don’t do no audited accounts
We don’t do no completed returns
We don’t do no prevarication
But we do do procrastination
ecobhoy says:
September 26, 2013 at 8:52 pm
Damn & blast those pesky bloggers!!
The release we’ve all been waiting for, and I’m still waiting… 😉
Ah well, no’ to worry, I’m still chuckling away at your portrayal of the greetin faced gym trainer… Perhaps his next utterance would’ve been “… Whit aboot me, ah’l dae it, geeza shoat…”
James, without doubt, you, old chap, are a belter, an absolute stoater – keep up the poor work! 😆
Another publication on the banned list then.
http://www.business7.co.uk/business-news/scottish-business-news/2013/02/13/former-rangers-owner-craig-whyte-most-searched-for-uk-company-director-in-2012-106408-23958796/#.UkQKIw7N-VF.twitter
Correction
Creditsafe stated in their press release Rangers were “relegated” into the “third tier” of Scottish football.
Rangers are in fact playing in the fourth tier of Scottish football, which is the IRN-BRU Third Division.
The statement Rangers were relegated is also incorrect. A new company was set up after Rangers Football Club Plc was placed into liquidation in October 2012. The ‘newco’, trading as The Rangers Football Club Ltd, thereafter listed on the Alternative Investment Market (AIM), trading under the name Rangers International Football Club Plc.
The liquidated club, formed in 1872, was placed in administration in February 2012 over non-payment of tax estimated at around £14 million.
HM Revenue and Customs then blocked a company voluntary arrangement (CVA) which would have allowed the oldco Rangers to continue trading.
Oldco Rangers’ administrator Duff & Phelps thereafter sold the assets to a consortium led by Charles Green, then trading under the name Sevco Scotland Ltd, and shareholders in the oldco gave their approval thereafter to change its name to The Rangers Football Club Ltd and the ‘oldco’ assumed the name RFC 2012.
This ‘newco’ was granted a licence by the Scottish football authorities to re-enter competitive football in Scotland in the third division after the Scottish Premier League clubs voted overwhelmingly against allowing the newco to re-enter top flight Scottish football.
50-50 baw there.
Never a booking.The wee Scots lassie was hard done by.
Scotland win 7-0.
No often you’ll hear that.
Well done,ladies.
torrejohnbhoy(@johnbhoy1958) says:
September 26, 2013 at 9:18 pm
Agree with you there, and she had all three of the chalked off goals as well.
ecobhoy says:
September 26, 2013 at 8:52 pm
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causaludendi says:
September 26, 2013 at 8:48 pm
Is it just me or have ‘Lotte’s latest offerings been removed already? Initially it was a “HT-500″ error now been replaced with a statement stating that content removed at the direction of FFW?!
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Seems to me the speed of removal equates to the nuclear megaton rating – this one was high
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Aye, it’s gone. That was quick. But the gist of it was Stockbridge worried about the SFA licence, back in April.
I didn’t get a screen save 😕
was jim really saying “pick me, pick me” ??
Must be a well-worn path between FFW and Scribd. Perhaps if CH posted pdf files elsewhere, FFW would take longer to have uploads deleted. I manage to download most of her info but occasionally one slips by. More time would help.
UptheHoops
I am on!…Appreciate your new found interest in us wee branches of the Green Ock Tree
Would have been happier with Hearts at home..but can’t complain..
suspect SJ too strong and disciplined at back and agree they have a real edge up front in May ..(properly managed he should make it at a jhigher level.)
we could be first team since Levein in Czech Republic. To go 4/6/0 or 6/4/0.. As we don’t have a forward line!
Ie play more midfielders and play on break.
Yip We are at home so we still have a very decent opportunity to progress
Just wish we had the old Joe Harper/ Joe Mason routine up front or even just the bold Andy up there on his on and we would have a shot now of winning this damn thing outright !
IMHO Not one team left in this draw could remotely hold a candle to Benny Rooney’s ’79 team that topped the League for months back then !!
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Tailothebank says:
September 26, 2013 at 9:44 pm
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I went to a Morton v Celtic game at Cappielow as a teenager in 1979 – as I recall it was around the festive period. Morton won 1-0 with Andy Ritchie scoring from a free kick or a penalty (can’t remember exactly).
I still don’t think I’ve seen as many cranes in my life BTW.
Upthehoops.
Was at that game too.
Memory a bit foggy but pretty sure it was a free kick.
I knew Andy well, he was a really great and talented player who performed well in the hoops till they let him go. A really nice person who didn’t get the breaks his talent deserved. Celtics loss was Mortons gain.
what is an SFA License – and what is it for?
How is it different to membership?
did the non-statutory accounts ever get passed to the SFA? Was an extension granted? Was there any action taken if not?
Celtic FC become ticket touts – glad to see lots of tims up in arms about this. I hope they force the club to climb down on this one.
i believe a fan acting in this way is breaking the law – indeed Celtic are pursuing fans doing this with tickets for the upcoming Barcelona game
http://www.celticfc.net/newsstory?item=4630&utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter
Celtic join forces with StubHub
By: Newsroom Staff on 26 Sep, 2013 17:05
CELTIC are today delighted to announce a new partnership with StubHub – the world’s largest ticket marketplace and part of the eBay Inc group of companies.
And what better way to begin the partnership than with the announcement that a limited number of tickets for next week’s UEFA Champions League clash with Barcelona are available via StubHub now at http://www.stubhub.co.uk
The agreement will see the club use StubHub as an additional distribution channel for our home match tickets, giving supporters the opportunity to obtain match tickets for games that they might otherwise not be able to get tickets for, enabling fans to show their support to Neil Lennon and the Bhoys when possible.
Anyone seen this? http://rangers.co.uk/news/club-news/item/5165-flamingo-land-sponsors-dj 😳
THURSDAY, 26 SEPTEMBER 2013 14:08
Flamingo Land Sponsors DJ
WRITTEN BY RANGERS FOOTBALL CLUB
Flamingo Land Sponsors DJ
FLAMINGO LAND, the UK’s only combined theme park, zoo and holiday resort, is now the proud sponsor of RangersTV’s matchday commentary featuring Ibrox legend Derek Johnstone.
Barca Bear DJ has already been providing his expert analysis at recent games shown on RangersTV.tv but it has been confirmed he will continue this role with the club’s online channel throughout stage two of The Journey.
Johnstone made 547 appearances and scored 209 goals during two spells with the Light Blues and he was part of Willie Waddell’s famous side that lifted the European Cup Winners’ Cup in 1972.
Flamingo Land is delighted to sponsor RangersTV’s matchday commentary with DJ, chief executive Gordon Gibb said: “Flamingo Land Resort Yorkshire is proud to be associated with Rangers Football Club, bringing two top flight organisations together.”
DISCOVER THE UK’S ONLY COMBINED THEME PARK, ZOO AND HOLIDAY RESORT
Set in 375 acres of beautiful countryside, you will find something for all ages to enjoy at Flamingo Land in Yorkshire.
If you are looking for adrenaline-fuelled thrills there are a sensational collection of extreme rides, including the recently opened Hero Rollercoaster that puts visitors in a flying position before swooping them around a track which creates the sensation of zero gravity flight. Plus there is a great choice of junior and family attractions.
Flamingo Land has a new sector called Dino-Stone Park and as the name suggests all the entertainment has a dinosaur flavour. This includes Cyclosaur, a children’s ride which allows riders to interact in a pedal–powered hang gliding simulation. Twistosaurus is a fantastic ride for the whole family with four cars on a track that spin independently. Moving and roaring dinosaurs are exhibited as well as full scale dinosaur skeletons and a dinosaur dig for those budding archaeologists.
You will quickly discover what makes Flamingo Land the UK’s most visited Zoo. With over 140 species of reptiles, mammals and birds, plus an amazing penguin pool and Muddy Duck Farm, you can enjoy an amazing view of the animal kingdom.
Just one day at Flamingo Land is never enough. That is why there is a Resort Village, complete with an extensive range of luxury accommodation, exclusive leisure facilities and The Club, a premium entertainment venue for Resort guests. With an extensive choice of short breaks and longer stays, finding your ideal holiday could not be easier.
For more info or to book visit Flamingo Land’s website by clicking here.
Tagged under Derek Johnstone RangersTV
😆 😆 😆
Maybe that should be Cloudcuckoo Land.
Chaps above!
RE 79 game at Cappielow. I was in Wee Dublin end ..and as I recall mid way through the first half….
Ritchie free kick , doesn’t go for goal..pre planned slips ball past wall to bye line..John McNeill cuts it back Bobby Thomson forces it home from 4 yards ..Only goal of game..Two good teams!
I guess we will get moderated off now for not talking about the SFA or our favourite new club and contaminating the forum with fitba Stuff!
I know I’m a bit late to the party on this one, but saw lots of comments earlier re Rangers hosting 400 members of the armed forces at the weekend. Would just like to add my support to ecobhoy’s exceptionally well drafted posts on this subject.
Flamingo Land sponsoring DJ’s expert analysis? WTF is that all about?
If i hadn’t clicked the link and read it myself I would have insisted that must be a windup.
I remember hearing Derek Johnstone’s expert opinion on the radio years ago, mid 80’s possibly. Think it was a midweek phone in after league cup games. The panel were talking about the merits of some football museum type display which was happening in Stirling’s library. Can’t remember exactly what it was, maybe someone else can.
Anyway they went to big DJ for his opinion and his reply was “Who decided this should go to Stirling. The sfa and the national stadium is based in Glasgow, our biggest city so the exhibition should be there.”
I don’t remember who else was on the programme but it took a while to try and explain to him that Stirling’s library was actually in Glasgow not Stirling, it was in fact the biggest public lending library in the city named after the original benefactor who bequeathed his collection (it was based in what is now GOMA if this was before your time).
He finally got it but any time I hear of DJ’s ‘expert opinion’ I always remember that show. I was only a teenager but even then I knew nothing of worth ever came from his mouth. He sounded like a fool then and he still does today.
And now his matchday blue nose extravaganza is being sponsored by a theme park full of dinosaurs. You could not make this up.
Tif Finn says:
September 26, 2013 at 10:06 pm
“…..From: James Traynor
Sent: 19 April 2013 15:38
To: Brian Stockbridge….”
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Tif Finn, thanks for posting Stockbridge’s letter. I was wondering what had been deleted from Charlotte’s offerings.
The sight of James Traynor’s name ( can hardly remember who he was!) was serendipitous.
For just five minutes ago I was sitting at my kitchen table, small refreshment to hand, reading the minutes of the meeting of ” The Directors of ‘Rangers football club’ ( the “Company”)” of October 31st 2012 at 2.00 pm.
There’s a couple of wee lines that made me smile:
” Imran Ahmad suggested to the Board that Jim Traynor be the host of this TV channel.
The meeting was interrupted at 3.42 pm and re-convened at 3.50 pm”
Conjures up an image of 8 minutes of hysterical laughter before the suits composed themselves well enough to continue!
ecobhoy says:
September 25, 2013 at 7:20 pm
But the service personnel taking part are volunteers and no one forces them to go to Ibrox – they want to go and what’s wrong with that ❓
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Hi EB.
I spent a lot of years in the Army. The general rules were that military personnel did not wear uniform in public unless on a “public duty”. This was primarily to help safeguard serving personnel from attacks from terrorists.
In my day the predominant threat came from Northern Irish based organisations but I think we can all agree that there is a wider threat nowadays from an increased number of disaffected organisations.
I have no idea if this rule still applies today but I would guess that it almost certainly does in light of the recent events concerning Lee Rigby.
I would therefore suggest that if your reading of the situation is true and these were volunteers then they would not be wearing uniforms for the reasons set out above. That being the case, TRFC would not get the effect they hoped they would. IMO, they would want soldiers in uniform for the associated publicity and kudos they seek to garner. They would be no good to TRFC in civvies.
IF they are in uniform, I would argue that this would be recognised as a duty and that the uniform should be respected and any troops attending would be well briefed to this end.
I think the military brass were “caught out” last year and would not want a repeat.
Incidentally. One of the most common charges in the Army was to “bring the regiment into disrepute” and more soldiers in my unit were punished under this rule than any other. (Usually drunkenness and/or fighting.)
For the record, I was one of the official complainers and my response from Gen. Eales, GOC Commanding Scotland was published on here.
Whullie says:
September 27, 2013 at 12:43 am
”……For the record, I was one of the official complainers and my response from the Gen. Eales, GOC Commanding Scotland was published on here…”
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Good man yourself, Whullie. I read the reply you got .
As I remarked in an earlier post on the subject, I’m pretty sure there will be an officer present on the day who will ensure- for his own career’s sake at least, if not from more high-minded reasons- that the military do a good PR job for themselves on the same basis as they might do at any other sports venue or festival or gathering of any and all of the people whose taxes pay for them and whose sons and daughters are their source of recruitment.
PS. Were you an officer?
PPS Good word, ‘garner’.
Hi JC.
No. I was not an officer. My regiment recruited it’s officers from the so-called higher echelons of society, of which I was not a member. Those types do not hail from Commerce St in the “Sou’ Side”
Nor was I a Warrant Officer.
However, I did achieve the highest Non Commissioned officer rank. Even after having slid down “one snake” (in Ludo parlance) in my junior NCO days as a result of (cough, cough) “bringing the regiment into disrepute”. 😳
Unfortunately my attempts to counter argue that I was actually trying to defend the honour of the regiment fell on deaf ears.
Apologies for going OT.
Dear all
We need to produce our non-statutory audited accounts for the period to August 2012 to the
SFA by the end of the month otherwise we breach their Rules and I understand that we will
lose our SFA Licence. I am told that the auditors cannot sign off whilst our investigation is
ongoing. We need an audit opinion for the SFA as they won’t accept the Prospectus. I am
going to try to speak to the SFA to get an extension but I am not sure how likely this is. I
thought this sufficiently important to bring to your attention and I will keep you informed.
The forensic work started today. I understand that Pinsens are due to come up next week. It
is important that this investigation is concluded swiftly or we may cause much bigger issues.
On another matter we were all forming views on the media impact of any announcement and
I think it is relevant to take into account the views of our media expert below:
Kind regards
Brian Stockbridge | Finance Director
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August 2012 was before RIFC plc came into existence we are therefore talking about the accounts of TRFC Ltd (formerly Sevco Scotland Ltd) – yes? TRFC was incorporated around the same time as it acquired the assets and history assigned to it by Sevco 5088 Ltd in early July 2012(?).
Why are accounts even required for a two month period ending in August 2012 and why would there be a delay by the auditors; who, by April 2013, would surely have all of the information as they were involved in preparing the prospectus for the period from incorporation to December 2012. The numbers could easily be lifted out of their working papers by an audit senior. Why after 8 months of failing to produce these accounts have the SFA not done something? Why would they even ask for audited accounts covering a two month period unless they suspected all was not well?
I smell a rat here and I suspect these is connected to the reports being prepared at the time.
Tif Finn says:
September 26, 2013 at 10:06 pm
Cheers for that Tif 😀
😎
I remember being at a mad game at Dens Park, Dundee v Morton, Dundee won 5-4 or 4-3, something like that. Andy Ritchie was playing and was unbelievable, scored a goal from the edge of the penalty area by passing it into the one part of the goal the goalie hadn’t covered. No great pace on the ball either, just perfection. I got the perfect angle to see it, I can still close my eyes and see it. The man was the most talented player not to be a big team star that I’ve ever seen.
To be fair to talksport, they did an interview with him a few months back when his book came out. Good (not patronising) interview, brilliant player
Regarding the ‘flamingo’ thing -will the Rangers fans start agitating for a pink away strip now?
Is the tie-in between the two that neither have a leg to stand on?
Wrong TW. The tie-in is that both have a huge ugly bill staring them in the face 😀
I forgot to share with you the conversation I was fortunate (or maybe unfortunate) to overhear yesterday. A Rangers fan at work who had convinced himself to the point of bursting that every Celtic fan was ready to slit their wrists over the Morton defeat, was getting a little agitated with a Celtic fan who didn’t appear too upset, and who instead pointed out the big picture. The Rangers fan then argued that without the Champions League Celtic would ‘be in serious financial trouble with the Co-op Bank’, and ‘at least Rangers are properly managed and debt free’. If this had been someone who I wouldn’t expect to know better I could understand, but believe me this guy has the savvy to know the score, should he choose to acknowledge it. What really struck me was the level of denial that appears to exist among all walks of their support. What also struck me about the Co-op Bank reference is that the person who set the hares running by getting the story in the media is having the desired effect. What is coming next I wonder?
Drew Peacock says:
September 27, 2013 at 1:56 am
Reading your piece with interest. One small point is that Sevco Scotland Ltd didn’t acquire the rights to the assets and history from Sevco 5088 Ltd. What Sevco Scotland acquired was the right of exclusivity to purchase these assets. Now CW and AE argue that this wasn’t legally done but it would take a court case to determine that.
Not sure about two months accounts because Sevco Scotland was incorporated on 29 May 2012 so could have been 3 months if accounts were to the end of August.
The accounts required by August 2012 were for TRFCL and it may well be that the only accounts the SFA will ever require is that of TRFCL or any successor as that is the operating company of the club. I really doubt that they will be looking at the accounts of RIFC Plc but perhaps I am wrong in that assumption.
But by April 2013 when the email was written we already had the interim accounts for RIFC Plc for the 7 month period until 31 December 2012. These accounts had the consolidated accounts of TRFCL incorporated in them so accounts had actually already been prepared for TRFCL stretching back to its incorporation in May 2012 (although it was Sevco Scotland at that time). And you are correct that info also appeared in the AIM Prospectus which from memory ran up until August or September 2012.
These interim accounts for RIFC Plc weren’t audited by Deloitte. But the accounts required for the SFA weren’t needed to be statutorily audited. So what was the big problem in just doing an audit acceptable to the SFA but not up to statutory level?
It appears it was the Pinsent Masons report that was the sticking point in April 2013 but that was a very new roadblock. So what exactly caused the problems before this as it is plain that they had all the info – why couldn’t they release it?
Why haven’t they released the info on the previous shareholding info of TRFCL in the recent Annual Report because they have already released that info in various other places.
There is something that we are all missing that would finsih a corner of the jigsaw – it will be hiding in plain sight of that I’m sure. It’s just a question of recognising it and if CF is around please give us a sign 😆
upthehoops says:
September 27, 2013 at 8:04 am
I forgot to share with you the conversation I was fortunate (or maybe unfortunate) to overhear yesterday. A Rangers fan at work who had convinced himself to the point of bursting that every Celtic fan was ready to slit their wrists over the Morton defeat, was getting a little agitated with a Celtic fan who didn’t appear too upset, and who instead pointed out the big picture. The Rangers fan then argued that without the Champions League Celtic would ‘be in serious financial trouble with the Co-op Bank’, and ‘at least Rangers are properly managed and debt free’. If this had been someone who I wouldn’t expect to know better I could understand, but believe me this guy has the savvy to know the score, should he choose to acknowledge it. What really struck me was the level of denial that appears to exist among all walks of their support. What also struck me about the Co-op Bank reference is that the person who set the hares running by getting the story in the media is having the desired effect. What is coming next I wonder?
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The story has its funny side to it but it’s also tragic in that many many Bears have to cling to the claptrap being fed to them not just by the club and a compliant media but also by the blogger cheerleaders depending which faction’s pocket they are in at any given time.
As to the Co-op story I think it is having the desired effect but perhaps not in the way it was originally anticipated by the grand architect.
It reinforces the delusion of the Bears so it will add to the fall when it comes and it further reinforces the belief of Celtic supporters and most sane neutrals that Bears will believe any fairytales told to them because that’s the way many of them are. That’s why I think we have got to patiently keep putting the financial argument forward as more and more Bears will read it and hopefully start to think it through and come to a more informed opinion.
their opinion might be unchanged but I don’t have a problem with that as long as they don’t follow blindly into the abyss that awaits. If they do with full knowledge then they truly can’t be saved.
I have seen it suggested that all Sevco need to play in the leagues is membership, not a licence. It appears that their membership is secure even if they never release audited accounts. I don’t know how this affects their status as a company, but the SFA appear completely untroubled about anything they do. So given that UEFA participation depends on three years membership of an association, could there be a position in 2015 where they have never submitted audited accounts, but are granted permission to play in Europe by the SFA on the basis of three years membership? Surely this refusal by past and present club to submit accounts can’t just go on forever?
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Resolution (and supporting statement) proposal for the 2013 Celtic Plc AGM under the terms of the Companies Act.
Celtic Plc AGM 2013 Resolution for CFCB investigation into SFA Licensing Administration.
This AGM requests the Board exercise the provision contained in the Procedural Rules Governing the UEFA Club Financial Control
Body Article 10 with jurisdiction and investigation responsibilities identified in articles 3 & 11 (Note 1), by referring/bringing to the
attention of the UEFA Club Financial Control Body (CFCB), the licensing administration practices of the Scottish Football
Association (SFA), requesting the CFCB undertake a review and investigate the SFA’s implementation of UEFA & SFA license
compliance requirements, with regard to qualification, administration and granting of licenses to compete in football competitions
under both SFA and UEFA jurisdiction, since the implementation of the Club Licensing and Financial Fair Play Regulations of 2010.
Supporting Statement
We the undersigned request this course of action, from our clubs custodians and corporate representation, responsible to protect our
interests in line with corporate law. We consider the SFA governance has displayed a disregard for the rules and spirit of fair play,
contradicted FIFA, UEFA & SFA mission statements and acted in contravention to the spirit of the rules of fair play outlined in FIFA,
UEFA & SFA Rules, Regulations and Supplementary documents of which the SFA are signatories, such as;
FIFA Code of Conduct Article 3 – Eleven principles for behavior and conduct of the FIFA family. (Note 2)
FIFA Standard Cooperation Agreement of 2004 Article 2.1 – Basic Principles, which states;
The basic principles governing the organization, administration and financing of football are as follows: football statutes and
regulations, democratic election of governing bodies, legality, competence, dignity, probity, mutual respect, responsibility, trust,
communication, transparency, fair play, solidarity, protection of sportsmen and sportswomen’s health and promotion of friendly
relations.
A number of recent examples of this including but not limited to the following;
1. Unprecedented transfer of membership and granting of license to operate to an unqualified new club, facilitating queue jumping
into the lower professional set-up, at the expense of existing qualified clubs, who had applied through the recognized process.
2. Secret cross governance agreements to facilitate point 1. above, which took place during the preparation and contrary to the ethos
of the SFA’s own published mission statement Scotland United A 20/20 Vision 2012, regarding trust and respect, as part of the
future governance of the sport. Further the process for the above agreement is in direct contravention of the FIFA Standard
Cooperation Agreement of 2004 Article 2.1 Basic Principles, which identifies Associations responsibilities outlined above.
3. Participation of a new club in an SFA affiliated domestic club competition without proper registration compliance.
4. The participation of the SFA, in an inquiry on improper player registration, an inquiry the SFA declined to initiate on the grounds
that; the SFA required to be neutral, maintaining appellate authority status, then not only compromising that neutrality by
participation but providing an interpretation on player eligibility that UEFA and indeed FIFA should examine.
These in our opinion are just some of the more blatant contradictions to the spirit of fair play, however, far more serious, and the main
thrust of this resolution is the granting by the SFA of a license to participate in European Competition in 2011, to a club who prime facie
did not qualify specifically under the non-payment of social tax requirements identified in the FFP 2010, still outstanding to date, a
decision that had a direct financial impact on our CFC Plc’s financial well being.
Our concern is directed at the governance of the game in Scotland, the SFA, and its apparent disregard for the licensing system that was
designed to protect against such commercial impropriety and to ensure sporting integrity; we wish to eliminate the opportunity for possible
future indiscretions and insist this problem requires immediate action through investigation by the FCFB, to restore trust and respect in the
governance of Scottish football.
We have no confidence in the SFAs governance within the current framework, to satisfy our concerns and therefore request the Board
supports this resolution.
If the Board cannot support this resolution, we require a response in writing before the AGM, followed up with a statement addressing this
issue at the AGM, justifying any such reticence, as to why it is believed the SFA’s actions or lack of, in granting the UEFA license without
due rigor, has not had a detrimental financial impact on our club, also justifying why there were no license administration irregularities if
that is the Boards contention.
We ask you to support this resolution and the written statement above circulated to shareholders in advance of the meeting, in the interests
of a stronger Celtic
.
I/We (Name/s)__________________________________________________________________________________________________
Of (Address)____________________________________________________________________________________________________
being an Ordinary shareholder of Celtic Plc (the ‘Company’) and/or a convertible Preferred Ordinary shareholder of Celtic Plc support the
above resolution and supporting statement and wish the resolution to be considered at the Company AGM
Signature_______________________________________________________________________________Date___________________ Resolution (and supporting statement) proposal for the 2013 Celtic Plc AGM under the terms of the Companies Act.
NOTE 1
Article 10 – Tasks of the CFCB chief investigator
1 If a case falling under the jurisdiction of the CFCB in accordance with these rules comes to the attention of,
or is referred to, the CFCB, an investigation is conducted by the CFCB chief investigator.
2 The CFCB chief investigator establishes the facts and collects all evidence.
Article 3 – Jurisdiction of the CFCB
1 The CFCB is competent to:
a) determine whether licensors have fulfilled their obligations and whether license applicants/licensees
have fulfilled the licensing criteria as defined in the UEFA Club Licensing and Financial Fair Play
Regulations;
b) determine whether licensees fulfill the club monitoring requirements as defined in the UEFA Club
Licensing and Financial Fair Play Regulations;
c) impose disciplinary measures as defined in these rules in the event of non fulfillment of the
requirements set out in the UEFA Club Licensing and Financial Fair Play Regulations;
d) decide on cases relating to club eligibility for the UEFA club competitions to the extent provided for
by the regulations governing the competitions in question.
2 When a case seems to come under the jurisdiction of both the CFCB and the Control and Disciplinary Body,
the chairmen of the two bodies decide in their own discretion which body shall deal with the case. If they
cannot reach an agreement, the chairman of the Appeals Body decides in his own discretion. Such decisions on
jurisdiction may only be appealed against with the final decision of the body to which the case was assigned.
Article 11 – Collection of evidence
1 The CFCB chief investigator may, on his own initiative or, where appropriate, at the request of the
defendant, convene a hearing as part of his investigation.
2 All means of evidence may be considered by the CFCB chief investigator. This includes, but is not limited
to, the defendant’s testimony, witness testimonies, documents and records, recordings (audio or video),
on-site inspections and expert reports.
3 The defendant may consult the case file.
4 The CFCB chief investigator may set a suitable time limit for the defendant to submit its observations
and/or submit or request complementary evidence. Resolution (and supporting statement) proposal for the 2013 Celtic Plc AGM under the terms of the Companies Act.
Celtic Plc AGM 2013 Resolution for CFCB investigation into SFA Licensing Administration. Page 3
Note 2
3 Eleven core principles for behavior and conduct of the FIFA family
As a member of the FIFA family, we shall at all times comply with the following principles:
3.1 Integrity and ethical behavior
We all behave ethically and act with integrity in all situations, keeping in mind that a reputation for integrity is
of the utmost importance to FIFA and its objectives.
3.2 Respect and dignity
We treat everyone with respect, and protect the personal dignity, privacy and personal rights of every human
being.
3.3 Zero tolerance of discrimination and harassment
We are committed to a diverse culture. There shall be no discrimination as a result of race, ethnicity, origin,
skin colour, nationality, religion, age, gender, language, physical appearance, sexual orientation or political
opinion, or engagement in any kind of verbal or physical harassment based on any of the above-mentioned
or any other criteria.
3.4 Fair play
We believe in the importance of fair play guiding us at all times in all our actions and decisions.
3.5 Compliance with laws, rules and regulations
We comply with all applicable laws and adhere to internal rules and regulations, including respecting
stakeholders’ interests.
3.6 Avoidance of conflicts of interest
We act always in the best interests of FIFA and its objectives. It is the personal responsibility of each member
of the FIFA family to avoid any conflict of interest.
3.7 Transparency and compliance
We seek transparency and strive to maintain a good compliance culture with checks and balances.
3.8 Social and environmental responsibility
We are committed to taking our social and environmental responsibility seriously. We want to contribute to
positive social change through football, and aim to minimise the negative impact of all our activities on the
environment and to promote sustainability within our sphere of influence.
3.9 Fight against drugs and doping
We want to play a pioneering role in the fi ght against drugs and doping in sport. We are strictly against drugs
and all doping practices.
3.10 Zero tolerance of bribery and corruption
We reject and condemn all forms of bribery and corruption.
3.11 No betting or manipulation
We do not take part in betting connected with football and do not tolerate any form of manipulation or unlawful
influencing of match results.
upthehoops says:
September 27, 2013 at 8:37 am
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I have seen it suggested that all Sevco need to play in the leagues is membership, not a licence. If appears that their membership is secure even if they never release audited accounts. I don’t know how this affects their status as a company, but the SFA appear completely untroubled about anything they do. So given that UEFA participation depends on three years membership of an association, could there be a position in 2015 where they have never submitted audited accounts, but are granted permission to play in Europe by the SFA on the basis of three years membership? Surely this refusal by past and present club to submit accounts can’t just go on forever?
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they MUST publish the accounts for the year prior to their entry into Europe (so, they could easily skip a few years!)
as well as 3 years membership they must have the previous years accounts to participate.
Whullie says:
September 27, 2013 at 12:43 am
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Interesting to read your piece especially with your background knowledge.
I think the Top Brass were caught-out badly by what happened last year and I also have no doubt they got their collective erse kicked all the way from Whitehall.
It was a thing that was building-up for a few years and each year got a little more ragged round the edges and anyone with a clear head at Ibrox should have seen it coming but they obviously thought the PR side outweighed the risks.
I also think there would have been a lot of Terries or whatever the modern term is because I have been told that invitations began by word of mouth and weren’t on any formal basis. They were aimed at rangers supporters or sympathisers and tbh I don’t necessarily disagree with that as what Celtic-supporting soldier would want to parade at Ibrox or, indeed, who supported any other club.
But I think that this is where the knub of the problem lay. The people who turned-up at Ibrox weren’t a cohesive unified force but Rangers supporters in uniform. I think the military have a lot to learn from the complete breakdown that took place in discipline and turned the event into a severe embarassment and an almost indescribable slur on the memory of the fallen.
I don’t think for a minute that any single individual in the 400 meant for one moment to show disrespect to former service personnel who had given their life. They got totally caught-up in the emotion of the moment and forgot they were actually on a remembrance parade and acted as if at a carnival.
I have remarked previously on the lack of officers visible on the pitch at half-time but there were officers in attendance at Ibrox although I suspect they were partaking of hospitality. Not for a minute would they have condoned what was happening IMO but they failed in their duty to the troops under their command.
I have a quiet laugh to myself when I think of Nick Eeles and the other chiefs of staff viewing the general mayhem pitchside including the football and then probably chocking when the gun was fired and soldiers roped-down from the stand.
But the gun and gymnastics were pre-planned with some unit commander/s and why of why didn’t they stop to think – Hey this is a Remembrance event where utmost dignity must be observed?
However lessons appear to have been learnt and it won’t happen again. Rangers are relatively happy because they can do the whole thing again dressed up as a celebration day for the Armed Forces. There are a million better and more productive ways they could do that but they can ask their highly-paid PRs for advice as they ain’t getting it free from me 😉
On the new-style event which will probably be indistinguishable from last year we obviously do have the respect for the uniform issue. I am not well-enough up in current military culture to know how that has relaxed and recognise that Ibrox isn’t quite a public place in the strict sense of the word. But what certainly has been missed from previous discussions is that there will always be opposing fans there in the sense they support the visiting team so some of them may well oppose wearing of club scarves and waving of flags – some being somewhat dubious.
But I am happy to leave the decisions as to what is acceptable when in uniform and in the public eye to Eeles and will wait and see what happens. It may well be that the troops are in civvies except for the gun party and abseilers and the military band. We don’t have long to wait to find out.
Sorry if this has been touched upon, but a guy called @StMiley on Twitter has just noted that a certain Gordon Gibb owns Flamingo Land. Interestingly he has a pension fund which owns Valley Parade (Bradford City’s home ground) which………….. he leases back to them !!!!????