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The Offline Game
easyJamboJune 1, 2016 at 17:03 14 2  Rate This 
I’m glad to see that the Scottish Government has now woken from its slumbers with regard to the introduction of strict liability, and if not they may consider legislation.
http://stv.tv/sport/football/1356032-justice-secretary-calls-on-sfa-to-introduce-strict-liability-rules/
It’s not beyond the bounds of possibility that some sort of council licensing process could be put in place for sports grounds, akin to that already in place for pubs, clubs, etc.  Strike three times and you lose your licence.  Simples really.
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Don’t know EJ if you read my earlier post today as to why TRFC would/will struggle to compete with CFC.I  didn’t know that the Scottish Government minister was going to come out with a statement.What was astonishing was Regan reacting within minutes,warning the SG that any action could provoke a reaction from FIFA,I suppose it never occurred to him that if he and his cohorts at the SFA(why are clubs not speaking out?)dealt with these problems then there would be no need for the SG to get involved at all.
FWIW,as a user of Twitter,I have asked the First Minister & various MPs,MSPs etc what they are proposing to do to deal with the problem of sectarianism in our wee country.At this moment,not one has replied to me.
As I said earlier.this is a social problem.The SG threat this morning is directed towards football and does nothing to address this in a wider context.Maybe someone should ask why Falkirk Council,looking at an 8 figure shortfall,have voted to subsidise an Orange Walk.That’s up to them.
I’ll make you a bet right now.10 years from now we’ll be asking the same questions.
WRT Regans “Threat” this afternoon,all the SG has to say is that given the choice of FIFA sanctions or the safety of the public,it’s a no brainer!.
Let Regan etc,deal with that.


The Offline Game
I think it will be many(if any) years before TRFC become a saleable asset.Their insistence as being seen as the biggest & best killed them before and may kill them again.There seems to be no attempt to put TRFC on an even keel.probably due,as we’re told consistlently,that the fans would never settle for second best.
IMO,TRFC cannot prosper until the accept a few salient facts:
They will not,for the forseeable future,and by that I mean years,reach CFCs level of turnover so will not be able to compete financially.
They have no access to credit if required whereas CFC can sign a cheque for £20m tomorrow if required.
They do not have the stadium capacity to dramatically increase revenue.CFCs extra 10k seats allow for millions in extra revenue(if they can fill them).
Sponsorship.From shirt sales to shirt sponsorship,hospitality etc,TRFC are lagging way behind CFC & will continue to do so.The days of joint sponsorship are gone,maybe for good.
They do not have the business infrastructure required.They run on a day to day basis,making decisions on the go,with no long term planning.They do not know where the money to meet the total of all next seasons financial requirements is coming from.
Their public image,except amongst their on fans and lauded by the MSM,is not good.People remember Manchester,Barcelona etc.The club themselves do nothing to change this.Quite the opposite,in fact.
Arrogance!.Nobody likes us,We don’t care,is the cry.tRFC don’t ask,they demand.Every statement should be taken as fact.if TRFC say that’s how it is,them that’s how it is and we should all be grateful to be allowed to sup from the same cup.That’s the message.
Sectarianism.this is not just a football but social problem in this wee country of ours.Football clubs,as a whole try,with varying degrees of success to deal with this but until it’s taken seriously by the Government(a few soundbites here & there don’t work)then it’ll always be a problem.Unfortunately,and I think more for business reasons than anything else,TRFC,whilst making the right noises,don’t really address this as they should.Most people know this but just won’t say,or else they use “whataboutery” to deflect the issue.To prosper long term,TRFC will have to deal with this.
Quite a long list.
Not insurmountable but it’ll take time.It’s taken Celtic 22 years to build the infrastucture now in place & they’re still building.It’s hard enough to catch your biggest rival if they’re standing still,never mind still pulling away from you.
TRFC have a long way to go but until they build a solid foundation,built on good financial practice,good PR,etc then they’ll go nowhere.They do though,have a large supply of building blocks(the fans)which if used correctly,over a period of time,could see them building something substancial.They need to put all their ducks in a row,though.


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PFA Scotland Statement on Scottish Cup FinalMichelle Evans23rd May 2016Fraser Wishart, Chief Executive of PFA Scotland, said: “PFA Scotland supports calls for a full and thorough independent and transparent investigation in to the post-match events at the Scottish Cup Final at Hampden on Saturday.
“Safety in the workplace is of paramount importance and it is forgotten that footballers’ workplace is the field of play, where they perform assuming like every worker that the environment is safe. On Saturday this was not the case and it is completely unacceptable that the safety of our members was compromised in the scenes which followed the full time whistle. The wellbeing of our members was endangered and they were left open to threats and intimidation. No-one should have to face these unsavoury conditions in their workplace, be it on the football pitch or an office environment.
“In the lead up to high profile matches such as Saturday’s cup final, players are advised by the authorities with regard to their behaviour on the pitch and the potential consequences in the stands of such behaviour. The players on Saturday behaved impeccably, it was their safety that was threatened and our members were left vulnerable.
“The scenes on the Hampden pitch tarnished what was a wonderful game of football and a historic day for Hibernian Football Club. It is particularly disappointing that both sets of players were denied the opportunity to go to their supporters in the traditional manner; the Hibernian players were denied the opportunity to celebrate a momentous occasion for their club with their supporters whilst the Rangers players were unable to collect their medals and acknowledge their supporters after a long season.
“We commend our members for the restraint shown under severe duress and believe that they are due a full explanation from the authorities as to how and why supporters were able to enter the field of play and threaten their safety.”


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THAT Debate, and the Beauty of Hindsight
easyJamboMay 3, 2017 at 10:11 
torrejohnbhoy(@johnbhoy1958) May 3, 2017 at 10:00  Good morning all. not been as active on the site lately as I would like.Grandparent duties seem to be more time consuming than I thought . Trying to keep up to date though. Thought it may be of interest to some that it appears someone has successfully petitioned the court to have MIH(IL) re-instated at Companies House,9 months after being put into liquidation. ============================== I have an hour or two off grandparenting duties just now before a nursery pickup, so I’m catching up too.
That is an odd one re MIH.  There is no indication on the document of who has requested that the company be reactivated, or why.  Perhaps it’s been in Bill Miller’s incubator for the last few months, and is ready to emerge as a healthy new company having been cleansed of its tarnished past, not to mention £700m of debt.
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THAT Debate, and the Beauty of Hindsight
Good morning all.
not been as active on the site lately as I would like.Grandparent duties seem to be more time consuming than I thought19.
Trying to keep up to date though.
Thought it may be of interest to some that it appears someone has successfully petitioned the court to have MIH(IL) re-instated at Companies House,9 months after being put into liquidation.


Small Price to Pay?
SmugasFebruary 7, 2017 at 16:35       Rate This 
Cant do linkey things but BBC reporting BDO are going after D&P.
Interesting development. 
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Here you go:
The liquidators of Rangers Football Club plc have launched a multi-million pound legal action against the company’s former administrators.
The claim has been lodged by BDO against Paul Clark and David Whitehouse of accountancy firm Duff & Phelps at Edinburgh’s Court of Session.
BDO are seeking up to £28.9m following Clark and Whitehouse’s handling of the administration process.
Rangers entered administration in February 2012.
Four months later, the company’s business and assets were sold to a consortium led by Charles Green for £5.5m.
BDO were then appointed as liquidators, and have since conducted a review of the events leading up to administration through to the sale of the assets.
‘No other option’In November 2014, BDO agreed a settlement for £24m in a claim against Collyer Bristow, the legal firm that acted for Craig Whyte in his purchase of Rangers Football Club plc from Sir David Murray in May 2011.
Those funds were added to the creditors’ pot, as will any monies raised from the legal action against Clark and Whitehouse.
In a statement, BDO said: “The joint liquidators, following extensive deliberations with their professional advisors and the liquidation committee, have taken the decision to issue a claim against the former Rangers’ administrators Paul Clark and David Whitehouse, of Duff & Phelps.
“During the course of the liquidation, questions have arisen regarding the strategy previously adopted by the former administrators, which have not, to date, been adequately answered.
“In seeking clarity, the joint liquidators have been left with no other option but to pursue the matter via the Scottish Court. The joint liquidators look forward to the resolution of this matter.”
Criminal charges against Clark and Whitehouse relating to their involvement with Rangers Football Club plc were dropped in June 2016.
Duff & Phelps have been approached for comment.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-glasgow-west-38896812?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter


Peace – Not War
Afternoon all.
It seems this mornings RIFC AGM can be summed up as follows:
1. It’s Ashleys Fault.
2.We’re skint.
3.We’ll need to borrow more for the forseeable future.
No word on Res 11 with result of the vote to be announced next week.I’d have thought by now the RIFC board would have an idea of how things stand.They did say that the Ashley/Easdale alliance would not be supporting the resolution.Same old stuff about “getting back where we belong”,challenging CFC & competing in Europe.No one explained how admitting that borrowing will need to continue for seasons to come sits with UEFA & their FFP regulations.I’m sure the SFA are on this as we speak.
No real sign of drum beating,though.FWIW.the directors looked broken when boarding the bus when leaving the Armadillo.They couldn’t look anyone in the eye.No statements,smiles etc.Mark Warburton even had a “minder” when being interviewed.
Normally,reading between the lines I’d have said they’ve lost Res 11 but with most things RIFC/TRFC,you just don’t know.


Peace – Not War
Evening all.
Interesting wee twitter debate earlier wrt a hypothetical insolvency event at TRFC and what the penalty would be.
If a new club,then 15 points but if the same club then 25.
The problem for the SFA(maybe why Regan’s a target) is that if they don’t administer a 25 point penalty then how do they explain 15 without admitting TRFC are new,something they have refused to do for over 4 years.If they did go for 25,they would then face the wrath of the TRFC fans who believe that,although they’re the same club,it should be 15 points because the club wasn’t liquidated last time,just the company!
Their refusal to apply the rules last time and then be a willing accomplice in a plot to lie to every football fan in Scotland has left them between a rock & a hard place.There’s no way out.


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