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Allyjambo, “Safe to say that none of the TRFC supporters who …

Comment on The Offline Game by RyanGosling.


“Safe to say that none of the TRFC supporters who entered the pitch were aware of anything that may, or may not, have happened to their players until some time after the event. They went on to kick a Hibby… I’d suggest that as they, the bears, entered the field of play, there was more malice in their intentions than in any of the Hibs fans as they crossed the boundary wall!”

Interestingly in the Wings Over Scotland timeline that you cite it is clear that by the point at which the Rangers fans came onto the pitch it was already some time after the assault on the Rangers goalkeeper had taken place. If the darling little Hibs fans went on to the pitch with such innocent intentions as you suggest, then they certainly developed some malice in a hurry. 

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Big Pink,

“Dave King wants his money back”

Has he put money in?!

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Completely and utterly off topic, but after years of posting here I just want to let everyone know that my posting alias was chosen due to his ridiculously impressive torso. If anyone has seen the film crazy stupid love they’ll know what I’m talking about. 

Back in topic. 

John Clark,

Your post brings up conflicting thoughts and emotions for me. On one level, probably the only one that matters for readers of this blog, I agree with you that titles should be stripped, particularly given the sanctions imposed on other clubs for improperly registering players. However on another level, I’m confident that if he hadn’t employed EBTs “Sir” David Murray would still have signed the same players and paid the same wages, he’d just have borrowed more money to do it and we’d have gone bust quicker. So yes the titles should be stripped if indeed the players were improperly registered, as it certainly seems, however I still think we’d had won those titles with those players if we’d followed a legal route. Completely irrevelant really, but it’s a bank holiday weekend and I’ve got time to spare to talk nonsense!

Your mention of Third Lanark was interesting. I’d certainly heard of them before Rangers’ implosion (think I’m younger than a number of other people here) but I’d looked them up more after the Rangers disaster. What struck me was that when people are resurrecting the Third Lanark name now, I happily viewed them as a continuation. Maybe because nobody associated with the recreation of the name went mental about how they were exactly the same team. But I thought it quite romantic that decades after the team went bust there are still people trying to bring it back. 

And for my final thought in the old club new club discussion, for what it’s worth, and what will bring me massive thumbs down on this post. I think it’s something that needs to be dropped from the ongoing comments in the blog. There is barely a day goes by when there isn’t some reference to it here. The position of the blog and its contributors has been made crystal clear and there is little if any debate in it. But there is a stated aim by many to get more engagement from Rangers fans on here, and I can almost guarantee it will never happen if every day people come in and post comments about how, to sum it up concisely, “you’re not Rangers any more”. I’m not arguing with the statement, but a Rangers fan logging on would read it and promptly leave. Unless they’ve got a torso like mine, apparently. 

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Paddy Malarkey,

I’m so bored with the singing thing. Your suggestion for fines after the final is ok, but to be honest this is not a difficult thing to deal with. First league game of the season, Rangers win but sectarian singing is witnessed. Docked three points. Second game, same situation. By this point Rangers have “won” two games but are bottom of the league. Third game, someone pipes up with the Billy Boys, how long do you think it’ll take the Rangers fans to shut him up?! Job done. 

So I am absolutely in favour of strict liability on this one as it is the only way to deal with it. Plus it is the easiest way. And if it didn’t work then I’ll admit we’re beyond hope and should be shut down. 

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”Now on what is objectionable to others: songs that are inward celebrating might cause offence to others but they are the ones taking offence, it is not being offered to or aimed at them. It is something intolerant in them that sparks the offence taken.”

By your criteria above, it would be perfectly acceptable for a group of fans to turn up at a football ground singing “Ode to Isis” and as long as it was inward looking, it would be the fault of the rest of the crowd if they were offended. 

I usually read your posts with interest and respect your views, but I find this stance ridiculous. 

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Upthehoops, thanks for your response. I’ve recognised my club’s weaknesses on here many times, but the justification given for support of clubs in Europe here is always that they are the Scottish representatives, which Rangers were. You can’t claim (and I don’t mean you particularly) to support the Scottish representatives but then exclude some because they aren’t financially well managed. Rangers mk II have been run at a loss but have broken no rules, and are not the first club in Scotland or in Europe to have been run at a loss. Again, I have been a vocal critic on here of the Rangers administration, but if people are on here claiming to support the Scottish representatives but making an exception for Rangers then I say they are hypocrites. 

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Jimbo you were not as vocal in your support for Scottish representation in Europe when Rangers were (briefly) involved. Neither was anyone else here, somewhat disappointingly. 

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