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Messrs Regan, Doncaster, Petrie, Milne, Ogilvie, Mackenzie, Dickson, English, Jackson, …

Comment on The Vice Closes by Finloch.

Messrs Regan, Doncaster, Petrie, Milne, Ogilvie, Mackenzie, Dickson, English, Jackson, EBT holders et al…..

This will not go away.

Stuff was done.
Too many people know.
And while many fans simply want to watch football there are enough who don’t think there is room enough under the Hampden carpet for this one. 

Coordinated PR campaigns like the last few days and coordinated intimidation of your members will not achieve the Red Adair “Capping of the well” that you seek.

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AULDHEIDSEPTEMBER 23, 2017 at 00:07 If the adverts do not get in the way this is an excellent read from James Forrest on why an enquiry into 5 separate issues is essential. 
I want to read James piece but the adverts make it impossible to just read the text and keep hijacking me.
I couldn’t finish.

For what its worth Big Pink, Tris I am also now finding the adverts on the SFM site more and more of an intrusion too.

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EASYJAMBOSEPTEMBER 20, 2017 at 01:12 
I’m disappointed that Hearts still haven’t made their position clear regarding a review of the football authorities handling of the Rangers EBT affair, although PMGB indicates that he believes that Ann Budge is against a review.
I don’t know if she is for or against a review.
She is future focussed and has real work to do looking and going forward with the stadium and the club.
I’d say Ann Budge is fully aware that if she does nothing in public that in turn nothing will then “happen” to interfere with what she can reasonably expect.
If she or any chairman comes out one by one and supports a review in public she then almost certainly brings in all the toxicity associated with the Ibrox club.
And she probably thinks some of that will be a financial downside.

The incredible fact is the elephant in the Scottish Football room affecting the politicians, the clubs, the administrators and the media is the potential toxicity of some Rangers fans and indeed the institution it was and has now become.

Its embarrassing, worrying and nobody has a strategy to deal with it.

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A wee bird told me last night that the Stewart Regan camp has used the scare tactic that the cost of arranging and holding the type of independent review that some people want would be disastrous to Scottish Football as it would run into millions and millions of real and un-budgeted pound notes with no obvious covering source.

Its partly true because the costs of everything to do with a real review would be significant and The SFA have already spent a fortune trying to keep the cap on this one and can see a huge legal bill on the horizon.

In actual fact the people who would pay would be us the stakeholders and our clubs because there is no appetite to fund this at Holyrood.

That has scared the likes of Aberdeen, Ross County, Dundee United etc who don’t want to see a reduction in their SFA fundings.

Mr Regan and his clique like the new “financial armageddon by review” threat and hope nobody will ever really find out (officially) what really was done and by whom.

Fans in Scotland are the most important funding source for almost every club but you’d never know it.

Regan, most of our chairmen and our media treat us like proverbial mushrooms.

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Fergus McCann v David Murray
easyJambo 17th August 2020 at 17:37

Interesting appointment as CEO at Hearts as Ann Budge takes a step back, although she remains as chairman.

Andrew McKinlay former Director of Governance and Football Regulation at the SFA


Very interesting indeed.

He will know stuff. 

Maybe a poacher turned gamekeeper gambit?


Fergus McCann v David Murray
Just heard on Radio Scotland that there has been an SFA independent investigation via an internal arbitration process.
Held in secret of course and proper legal too by one of the self declared SFA Laws that aren’t really legal but fair play to our administrators for taking the initiative and saving the season.

Fear not Scottish clubs One and all.

The conclusion on this occasion was that Sandy Bryson as first expert witness declared the Celtic player in question was simply  imperfectly quarantined and therefore innocent as per precedent.

Move along Scottish Government.
Nothing to see here.

We have our own laws and Sandy on standby.



Fergus McCann v David Murray
Aston Villa are surely pleased they don’t play in Scotland or they’d be in the championship and not as unfolded.

Our own blog from April 8th advised a fairer solution before any votes and any mayhem.

This is what is there in our archive, seems so long ago but we would have been in a better place.

Time for Cool Heads and Clear Thinking

The Scottish Football Supporters Association don’t profess to have all the answers and have no vested interests but here we have created a 3 point strategy that we feel will help guide Scottish Football to best ride this crisis and allow the real planning and budgeting at all clubs ahead of whatever is coming our way.

Parameter 1
This is Not a Time for Own Goals.
Covid 19 and the aftermath will cause enough financial hardship and stress to clubs and fans.
This is not a time to pitch clubs vs clubs or fans vs fans. And not a particularly good time to offer a possibility, of a possibility, of a possibility of reorganisation in time for Hearts and others not to get unfairly relegated.

Parameter 2
We Need an Interim Plan Where There Are no Losers

This could be a 1 year’s solution, possibly 2 at most, where every club (and fan) gets a positive post Covid 19 start allowing the best possible financial move into the new season 2020 – 2121 for all.

See our plan starter for ten below (insights and other plans welcome)

Parameter 3
Scottish Football Desperately Needs a Re-launch (But not in a manic rush)
How best should we set up our league structures to help our domestic and international game move into the future?

How do we look at an updated list of McLeish insights and incorporate them?

How do we involve the Scottish Government and the real stakeholders, the fans?

How do we capitalise on our football community for the greater good?

The recent surge of clubs coming into the fairly new pyramid system both in the Highland area but especially in the central and southwest regions is screaming out for a new and fairer framework.

Any long-term solution is likely to be evolutionary rather than revolutionary and grounded but it must be fit for purpose and fair for all from day 1 for all the members.
It has to work and be seen to work top down and bottom up.

Fergus McCann v David Murray
Thanks Wottpi.

Insightful accurate and depressing.

SFM and Scottish Football needs Wottpis, Red Lichties, Easyjambos, Auldheids, Allyjambos, John Clarks, Danish Pastries, Bogsdolloxes, Brenda’s Clocks, Jean Brodies and countless others who care deep down and have shown the desire and ability to elevate the debate above the partizan nonsense that can predominate.

The Last Thing Scottish Football Needs Right Now ..
Self interest to the point of self harm.


John Clark 15th July 2020 at 08:19

Especially, as I believe Lord Clark hinted, there is the suggestion that Article 99  might run counter to the public interest in  so far as to give a private company’s Board the right to deny to the company’s members access to the Courts without that Board’s permission and under threat of unconscionably draconian powers if they do so when the dispute in question might very well be about abuse of process rather than about ‘ a football’ dispute. 

The SFA move yesterday to adopt what can be seen as an unnecessary bullying tactic that may actually not be legal is interesting and will have long term implications.
This kind of “rule” is as incongruous as the existing “football debts first” internal rule.

Everything about the SFA and the SPFL  action though this has been found lacking.

If I was Brora or Kelty I’d be asking the SFA why they were not worthy of legal action against the SPFL.


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