Their Master’s Voice


Ecobhoy says: July 26, 2013 at 3:04 pm Mixed messages – Alex …

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ecobhoy says:
July 26, 2013 at 3:04 pm

Mixed messages – Alex Tomo latest tweet on the subject made reference to Article 8 ECHR – now talk of Data Protection Act 1998 as the barrier to MSM discussion of @CharlotteFakes materials.

I would be interested to know what the DPA angle is.

Section 55 of the DPA mandates that person must not knowingly or recklessly, without the consent of the data controller— (a) obtain or disclose personal data or the information contained in personal data or (b) procure the disclosure to another person of the information contained in personal data.

@CharlotteFakes has been consistent that ownership of the [personal] data is not an issue. Can we assume from that that she has or does not need the permission of the data controller to publish [as a form of perocessing] that data?

Section 32 of the DPA is an exemption – it waives a number of the data protection principles to allow publication of personal data that where the data controller reasonably believes that, having regard in particular to the special importance of the public interest in freedom of expression, publication would be in the public interest.

The DPA is a complex piece of legislation – however, there is scope [at face value] to allow for the publication of @CharlotteFakes materials without breach of the said Act.

It would be good to know what the specific DPA concerns are.

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PhilMacGiollaBhain says:
July 31, 2013 at 4:43 pm

Phil, regarding the troubles surrounding Rangers – are you in a position to comment if the club has a safety certificate or not?

I understand that each club must confirm with the SFA on 30 July that they have a certificate in place.

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Perhaps another avenue for exploration for internet bampots and any watching journalists alike.

What if a PR company on behalf of a client(s) were lobbying and/or briefing as to how a liquidation event should be described in the TV, Radio, Internet and printed media, contrary to accepted legal and public opinion?

If such activities had taken place (and I am not suggesting for one minute that this is the case) then this could be interesting from a number of points.

Now I accept that some hold the view that Rangers football club has not died (I do not subscribe to that view). However, if there has been a concerted media campaign to spin liquidation to meet the agenda of a party – then to my mind the following questions come into play:

(1) Who (if anyone) commissioned the briefings and for what purpose? An admission that liquidation = death of the entity and all that went with it, and the accompanying desire to [attempt to] re-write history?
(2) What media organisations (if any) were briefed – and did they accept the premise offered to them? If so why were the accepted views on liquidation discarded?
(3) If there was a concerted campaign to spin liquidation – have any laws been broken where the club did not die premise is accepted and continued?

Perhaps this is a line of investigation that can be probed further.

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Morning all, Can you help me with this,Having a wee debate with a TRFC supporting pal wrt EBTs.I know BDO have been granted leave to appeal to the Supreme Court but have they actually done so?. If not is there a time limit they must adhere to.?.I understand that if no appeal is forthcoming then COS decision stands.

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