Their Master’s Voice


Chancer67 says: August 3, 2013 at 9:15 pm ______________________________ I wonder what …

Comment on Their Master’s Voice by Auldheid.

chancer67 says:

August 3, 2013 at 9:15 pm

I wonder what they meant exactly by crystalised because if they mean it was still under dispute at the point the licence was granted by SFA on 31st May and so not due well that is incorrect.

If they mean it had not crystalised because it was not due by 30th June when they had to tell UEFA of any unpaid tax at that date then that is incorrect.

If they meant it had crystalised in the respect that Rangers had accepted it was due and HMRC had issued the bill before the end of May (they did on 20th May) BUT it was not an overdue payable because it was covered by one of the 4 criteria in Annex VIII of UEFA FFP 2010 (one of which was amended in UEFA 2012) then that too imo is incorrect.

Regan said in Sept 2011 that proper procedures had been followed which very arguable given the above and in December that the bill had not crystalised at time of granting licence (31st May) when the key date was 30th June..

The SFA public statements are not supported by what CF has made available. This suggests that not only did SFA not apply the UEFA rules properly but they also aided Rangers in depriving HMRC and UK taxpayer of £2.8m that most certainly was due.

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Steerpike says:
August 3, 2013 at 4:05 pm

Have a look at this business case based on past accounts, IPO and last Interim Accounts information.

By the end of Yr1 (last season) it calculated a bottom line left of £12,864,414. That being so and assuming the £5m capital expenditure was spent (and I have doubts that the £3m stadium spend happned) the predicted bottom line at the end of this season in Yr2 would be £1.137m in the red, Yr3 £8.10M before it starts to reduce slightly in yr 4.

It assumes there were costs to raising the shares so £19.7m used and not £22m..

However if only £7m is left at end of Yr1 the botton line at the end of next season rises to £6m+ in the red and not spending something on Ibrox does not look a viable option. £2.5m is allowed for but it may be more. It also allows for stadium naming bringing in £1m that seems to have dropped off the radar..

The latest accounts will inform us of areas where the figures are way out, but the wage bill would need to be halved to get the business back under control and management expenses are ridiculous.

The new club can survive OK but only if it comes to accept its not a viper that shed its skin but a new animal entering a different world from the one its predecessor inhabited, a teddy bear rather than a snake perhaps?.

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wottpi says:

August 2, 2013 at 10:27 am

UEFA stonewall on questions like that asked of the FFP guy.. They just send you a copy of the rules and leave the rest to the reader. It should not be so but in the presence of that stonewall other means have to be found.

I’m not reacting to any perceived criticism here, your point is perfectly valid., I just want readers to know what we are up against.

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john clarke says:

August 2, 2013 at 11:17 am

Could it be the basis of a case for spending more tax payers money on The Rangers?.

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That Dave King is allowed any influence in Scottiish football is a dereliction of the duty of the SFA to protect our game from criminality.

Dave King should be called to account by the other clubs via the SFA to provide evidence he can do what he has promised, which is bank roll TRFC.

At the very least the clubs should be preparing for another insolvency event at Ibrox and deciding the conditions they will set for TRFC to continue taking part in Scottish football on the same basis as every other club, who act with the utmost good faith to fellow members.

The clubs via the SFA have the powers under Club Licensing to do so, powers that the SFA Comp Off can only conclude the SFA have failed to utilise. Powers that UEFA must have recognised by now as a result of Res12 letter of May 2016 and UEFA Licence submission this year, are not being used fully by the SFA.  

It was self preservation that underpinned the 5 Way Agreement . The dangers of that agreement – destroying integrity, undermining trust, ignoring deceit – become more and more manifest and should alert other clubs to the necessity to exercise their collective responsibility to each other and so to our game that they govern via the SFA on our behalf, using Club Licensing powers.

When a particular course of action designed to preserve self is not working it is human nature to try another course.

Not renewing STs come April/May unless positive trust restoring actions are taken by our clubs collectively, is one way of changing minds about what is self preserving.

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