Time for Scots Government to Take Bull by the Horns


….. and get RFC(IL)’s history off the TRFC page in …

Comment on Time for Scots Government to Take Bull by the Horns by macfurgly.

….. and get RFC(IL)’s history off the TRFC page in the SPFL website.

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Time for Scots Government to Take Bull by the Horns
Well played Aberdeen.

Time for Scots Government to Take Bull by the Horns
Jingso.JimsieJuly 20, 2017 at 17:01
the issue is that the SFA/SPFL hierarchies are inward-looking, self-serving & self-protectionist. They have become caught-up in maintaining those positions, rather than administering the game in a fair & even-handed manner & accepting whatever criticism comes with doing so.
Possibly, they are even at the stage where they can’t countenance the possibility that they have taken the wrong path, despite all the indicators showing that they have.
Freely admit culpability? That’s not going to happen. Be blamed? That might.
They have, but my point is the net may (hopefully) be closing and they now, because of the SC decision, have a way out. There is not now necessarily any culpability.
I think this will only be resolved when they can leave office with face intact, relatively at least. In my opinion they don’t deserve that, but I am prepared to accept pragmatism here, to secure a credible future for the Scottish game, which I don’t think is possible as long as the most serious case of illegal payments to players in the history of world football remains unaddressed. They know that too. See AllyJambo’s point above about how they have never denied cheating took place.
The most important thing is to get this mess sorted and restore confidence in the integrity of the game’s administration here. (Give people overwhelmed by exceptional circumstances a chance to leave with dignity / rats an undeserved hole to bolt from), but get Scottish football back on the rails, because it’s not now. The SPFL and SPL have got away with this thus far because as a club of members they are self governing, as you say, and unaccountable to anyone else, but the SC decision gives them a way out of the hole they have been digging since 2012.
Accept the SC decision as it is, requiring a putting aside of LNS and effectively the 5WA too. This is known now, it was not before. Get out while you can.
Survey about to be done.

Time for Scots Government to Take Bull by the Horns
Jingso.JimsieJuly 20, 2017 at 11:18
Agreed, but the SC decision, in my view, gives this a new imperative and provides a new opportunity.
The 5WA and associated indemnities were, again in my view, undesirable to say the least, but I don’t think anyone is in danger of ending up in court over them.
“Best course of action at the time…”
“Based on legal advice …”
“Need for review in light of recent SC decision…”
“Good of the game at an unprecedented time of confusion…”
“With the benefit of hindsight…”
“Having taken further legal advice…”
“With UEFA breathing down our necks…”
Use the SC decision to bin LNS and the 5WA at the same time. Independently review the whole thing. Clean up the mess, Regan and Doncaster can get out from underneath it and retire quietly with the best reputations they are ever going to get now and we can get our credibility and integrity back. 
The clubs need to urge their representatives on the Boards to do this, and quickly.      

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Who Is Conning Whom?
tonyDecember 7, 2017 at 21:47
Thursday, 07 December 2017, 21:40by Rangers Football Club…..
That statement is embarrassingly weak. If Traynor drafted it, and that’s the best he can do, then they are heading down the slope fast from here.

Who Is Conning Whom?
It’s an important moment for the smsm.
They have been humiliated by “Rangers”.
Will it be a moment of enlightenment, an epiphany, or will it be back, shoulder to the wheel, of disseminating “Rangers” propaganda?
There is no excuse now. They have been, wittingly or otherwise, played like salmon, or violins, or violin playing salmon and very publicly so.
Will they choose to risk further ridicule, or is this the moment when they can save face by getting out from underneath and standing up for themselves (and “Rangers” supporters) by exploring and exposing the whole sad charade?

Who Is Conning Whom?
upthehoopsDecember 7, 2017 at 19:59
“Forced to defend their six weeks blanket ‘he’s definitely going’ coverage, they actually said it was Dave King at the Rangers AGM who made them believe it was a done deal”.
Did they consider asking him how he knew that , or could infer that even, when at that point there had been no official contact between “Rangers” and Aberdeen?

Who Is Conning Whom?
DarkbeforedawnNovember 26, 2017 at 11:37
The SFA and SPFL don’t notice because they signed the 5 Way Agreement inviting Charles Green to pay RFC(IL)’s football debts in exchange for being credited with the titles won by that entirely different club and they are still looking the other way. Remember, when Sevco were admitted to Div. 3, Green could have changed the name to Glasgow Athletic, Govan United , Southoftheriver Strollers or anything and played in any colours he chose, self referencing green perhaps. Maybe if the assets had been bought by someone with more than personal enrichment in mind that would have happened, but Green is the one person in this who benefited from the blue hoax.
The effects of that agreement are that:
TRFC / RIFC have had to pay off debts that they had no responsibility for whatsoever, and
RFC(IL) fans have been put in the embarrassing and uncomfortable position of having to go along with a falsehood in the foundation of the new club they want to support.
Even if they wanted to, and it may even be that there are some in the media who are equally uncomfortable about the same club myth, the media outlets have no real choice about how to present the new club TRFC as long as the honours of RFC(IL) remain on the SPFL website.
I don’t know about UEFA, but I imagine whoever is responsible for their club pages simply copied what was on the SPFL site, not suspecting anything untoward.
I wonder if with hindsight even Regan and Doncaster now regret the 5 Way Agreement. Perhaps an insolvency event or better still liquidation at TRFC might finally make it possible to reset the whole thing and give RFC(IL) fans a club they can support without squirming.

Enough is enough
Dave King is only the third case of anyone having been “Cold Shouldered”.
The other two cases are here:


One of them involved persons at Dundee FC as it happens.
Dave King is the first person to have had his case referred to Court for enforcement.
This is important because it illustrates the extraordinary position taken by King.
Homunculus makes a point reminiscent of the EBT case:
“Surely that would be an important enough issue for the Takeover Panel to be granted leave to appeal to the Supreme Court”.
Is this a possible strategy here?
and also
“If he does decline to make any Order I will be fascinated to read his justification for it”
Indeed, so will everyone else in British industry.
With all due respect to JC and his faithful and accurate reporting, the “may” issue is a nonsense. To decline to enforce the verdict of the TOP is to remove the substance of the 29.9% shareholding rule and open up the possibility of, among other things, a tidal wave of cases of mammoth proportions regarding previous decisions.

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