Time for Scots Government to Take Bull by the Horns


Jimbo you were not as vocal in your support for …

Comment on Time for Scots Government to Take Bull by the Horns by RyanGosling.

Jimbo you were not as vocal in your support for Scottish representation in Europe when Rangers were (briefly) involved. Neither was anyone else here, somewhat disappointingly. 

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Time for Scots Government to Take Bull by the Horns
Upthehoops, thanks for your response. I’ve recognised my club’s weaknesses on here many times, but the justification given for support of clubs in Europe here is always that they are the Scottish representatives, which Rangers were. You can’t claim (and I don’t mean you particularly) to support the Scottish representatives but then exclude some because they aren’t financially well managed. Rangers mk II have been run at a loss but have broken no rules, and are not the first club in Scotland or in Europe to have been run at a loss. Again, I have been a vocal critic on here of the Rangers administration, but if people are on here claiming to support the Scottish representatives but making an exception for Rangers then I say they are hypocrites. 

Time for Scots Government to Take Bull by the Horns
Allyjambo I agree that if you grant the premise of what I’m saying, the use of EBTs becomes an even bigger disgrace. I was not and am not attempting to mitigate any of Rangers’ actions by what I said. And as Homunculus noted in his post, my position is simply that without cheating Rangers would just have gone bust sooner, I don’t believe that there was any more appetite back then for living within their means than there is under the current regime at Ibrox. I am also, for the avoidance of doubt, not trying to legitimise the trophies which were won while this practice was going on – I now realise that it may appear that I was. Wilfully misregistered players and massive tax fraud seems to me to be sufficient grounds to put an asterisk next to the titles won while the practice was going on. At the very least. 

Time for Scots Government to Take Bull by the Horns
Thanks Allyjambo. My point was not that Rangers could have afforded those players without EBTs (they couldn’t even afford them with EBTs!) but that Murray had access to all kinds of money in those days, and in my view would have put more of his “own” money in. 

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”Now on what is objectionable to others: songs that are inward celebrating might cause offence to others but they are the ones taking offence, it is not being offered to or aimed at them. It is something intolerant in them that sparks the offence taken.”

By your criteria above, it would be perfectly acceptable for a group of fans to turn up at a football ground singing “Ode to Isis” and as long as it was inward looking, it would be the fault of the rest of the crowd if they were offended. 

I usually read your posts with interest and respect your views, but I find this stance ridiculous. 

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I spelt the last “Whyte” incorrectly. I’m embarrassed. 

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Well I for one am glad the trial happened and glad we have reached an outcome. 

While I don’t think, on the basis of the evidence heard, Mr Whyte is, for want of a better phrase, “whiter than white”, I do think the trial laid clear the trail of evidence as to who was responsible for what befell Rangers. 

Rangers werent in the verge of bankruptcy in 1988 when they were purchased by Sir David Murray, but they sure as hell were when he sold them. Mr White may have greased the wheels in the end but the tracks were laid by Sir David Murray. And I think you’d be a fool to think otherwise. 

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