UEFA Club Licensing. – To Comply or not to Comply ?
On 16 April 2018 The UEFA Club Financial Control Body (CFCB) adjudicatory chamber took decisions in the cases of four clubs that had been referred to it by the CFCB chief investigator, concerning the non-fulfilment of the club licensing criteria defined in the UEFA Club Licensing and Financial Fair Play Regulations.
Such criteria must be complied with by the clubs in order to be granted the licence required to enter the UEFA club competitions.
The cases of two clubs::
Olympique des Alpes SA (Sion Switzerland )
and
FC Irtysh (Kazakhstan)
are of particular interest to those following the events under which the SFA awarded a UEFA License to Rangers FC in 2011 currently under investigation by the SFA Compliance Officer because
- The case documentation tell us how UEFA wish national associations to apply UEFA FFP rules
- The cases tell us what might have happened to Rangers FC in 2012 had they not gone into liquidation and as a consequence avoided the same type of sanctions that UEFA applied to Sion and Irtysh.
FC Sion (Olympique des Alpes SA)
Here we are told how the Swiss FL and then the UEFA CFCB acted in respect of FC Sion in 2017 where a misleading statement was made in the Sion UEFA licensing application.
Full details can be read at
but this is a summary.
In April 2017 the Swiss FL (SFL) granted a licence to Sion FC but indicated that a Disciplinary case was pending.
In July 2017 the CFCB, as part of their licence auditing programme, carried out a compliance audit on 3 clubs to determine if licences had been properly awarded. Sion was one of those clubs.
The subsequent audit by Deloitte LLP discovered Sion had an overdue payable on a player, amounting to €950,000, owed to another football club (FC Sochaux ) at 31st March 2017 as a result of a transfer undertaken by Sion before 31st December 2016, although the €950,000 was paid in early June 2017.
Deloitte produced a draft report of their findings that was passed to SFL and Sion for comment on factual accuracy and comment on the findings. Sion responded quickly enabling Deloitte to present a final report to the CFCB Investigation Unit. In response to the Deloitte final report Sion stated:
“il apparaît aujourd’hui qu’il existait bel et bien un engagement impayé découlant d’une activité de transfert. Ce point est admis” translated as
“it now appears that there was indeed an outstanding commitment arising from transfer activity. This is admitted”
What emerged as the investigation proceeded was that the Swiss FL Licensing Committee, after granting the license in April and as a result of a Sochaux complaint of non-payment to FIFA, had reason to refer Sion’s application to their Disciplinary Commission in May 2017 with regard to the submission of potentially misleading information by FC Sion to the SFL on 7th April 2017 as part of its licensing documentation.
Sion had declared
“Written confirmation: no overdue payables arising from transfer activities”, signed by the Club’s president, stating that as at 31 March 2017 there were no overdue payables towards other football clubs. In particular, the Club indicated that the case between FC Sion and FC Sochaux regarding the transfer of the player Ishmael Yartey was still under dispute.
The SFL Disciplinary Commission came to the conclusion that FC Sion had no intention to mislead the SFL, but indeed submitted some incorrect licensing documentation; the SFL Disciplinary Commission further confirmed that the total amount of €950,000 had been paid by the Club to FC Sochaux on 7 June 2017. Because of the inaccurate information submitted, the SFL Disciplinary Commission decided to impose a fine of CHF 8,000 on the Club.
Whilst this satisfied the SFL Disciplinary process the CFCB deemed it not enough to justify the granting of the licence as UEFA intended their FFP rules to be applied.
Sion provided the CFCB with a number of reasons on the basis of which no sanction should be imposed. In particular, the Club admitted that there was an overdue payable as at 31 March 2017, but stated that the mistake in the document dated 7 April 2017 was the result of a misinterpretation by the club’s responsible person for dealing with the licence (the “Club’s licence manager”), who is not a lawyer. The Club affirmed that it never had the intention to conceal the information and had provisioned the amount due for payment and that, in any case, it has already been sanctioned by the SFL for providing the wrong information.
The CFCB Investigation Unit accepted that the Sion application, although inaccurate, was a one off misrepresentation and not a forgery, (as in intended to deceive ) but that nevertheless an overdue payable did exist at 31st March and a licence should not have been granted.
Based on their findings, the CFCB Chief Investigator decided to refer the case to the CFCB Adjudicatory Chamber and suggested a disciplinary measure to be imposed on FC Sion by the CFCB Adjudicatory Chamber, such measure consisting of a fine of €235,000, corresponding to the UEFA Revenues the Club gained by participating in the 2017/2018 UEFA Europa League.
The CFCB Investigatory Chamber submitted that it was appropriate to impose a fine corresponding to all the UEFA revenues the Club gained by participating in the competition considering the fact that FC Sion should not have been admitted to the competition for failing to meet one of its admission criteria.
The Adjudicatory Chambers took all the circumstances (see paras 91 to 120 at http://tiny.cc/i8sxsy ) into consideration and reached the following key decisions.
- FC Sion failed to satisfy the requirements of Article 49(1) of the CL&FFP Regulations and it obtained the licence issued by the SFL not in accordance with the CL&FFP Regulations.
- FC Sion breached Articles 13(1) and 43(1)(i) of the CL&FFP Regulations. (Documents complete and correct)
- To exclude FC Sion from participating in the next UEFA club competition for which it would otherwise qualify in the next two (2) seasons (i.e. the 2018/19 and 2019/20).
- To impose a fine of two hundred and thirty five thousand Euros (€235,000) on FC Sion.
- FC Sion is to pay three thousand Euros (€3,000) towards the costs of these proceedings.
Comment in respect of the award of a UEFA Licence in 2011 to Rangers FC.
It is now public knowledge that an actual liability of tax due before 31stDecember 2010 towards HMRC, was admitted by Rangers FC before 31st March 2011.
This liability was described as “potential” in Rangers Interim accounts audited by Grant Thornton.
“Note 1: The exceptional item reflects a provision for a potential tax liability in relation to a Discounted Option Scheme associated with player contributions between 1999 and 2003. A provision for interest of £0.9m has also been included within the interest charge.”
The English Oxford Dictionary definition of potential is:
Having or showing the capacity to develop into something in the future.
Which was not true as the liability had already been “developed” so could not be potential.
This was repeated by Chairman Alistair Johnson in his covering Interim Accounts statement
“The exceptional item reflects a provision for a potential tax liability in relation to a Discounted Option Scheme associated with player contributions between 1999 and 2003. “ where he also added
“Discussions are continuing with HMRC to establish a resolution to the assessments raised.”
This could be taken as disputing the liability but In fact the resolution to the assessments raised would have been payment of the actual liability, something that never happened.
In the Sion case it was accepted the misleading statement was a one off misrepresentation, but at the monitoring stages at June 2011 in Ranger’s case the status of the liability continued to be misrepresented and in September the continuing discussions reason was repeated, along with a claim of an instalment paid whose veracity is highly questionable.
The Swiss FL Licensing Committee did at least refer the case to their Disciplinary Committee when they realised a misleading statement might have been made. The SFA however in August 2011, when Sherriff Officers called at Ibrox for payment of the overdue tax , did no such thing and pulled up the drawbridge for six years, one that the Compliance Officer is now finally charged with lowering.
The case of FC Irtysh of Kazakhstan is set out in full at http://tiny.cc/y9sxsy and is a bit more straightforward but is nevertheless useful to compare with events in 2011 in Scotland.
Unlike Rangers FC , FC Irtysh properly disclosed that they had an overdue payable to the Kazakhstan tax authorities at the monitoring point at 30th June 2017. This caused the CFCB Investigatory Unit to seek further information with regard to the position at 31st March
It transpired that Irtysh had declared an overdue payable at 31st March but cited their financial position (awaiting sponsor money) as a reason for non payment to the Kazakhstan FA who accepted it and granted the licence. The outstanding tax was paid in September 2107.
The outcome of the CFCB Investigation was a case put to the CFCB Adjudicatory Chamber who agreed with the CFCB Investigation Unit that a licence should not have been granted and recommended that Irtysh be fined the equivalent of the UEFA prize money, (that had been withheld in any case whilst CFCB investigated.)
The CFCB Adjudicatory Chamber however decided that a fine was not sufficient in sporting deterrent terms and ruled that:
- FC Irtysh failed to satisfy the requirements of Article 50bis(1) of the CL&FFP Regulations and it obtained the licence issued by the FFK not in accordance with the CL&FFP Regulations.
- To withhold four hundred and forty thousand Euros (€440,000) corresponding to the UEFA revenues FC Irtysh gained by participating in the 2017/2018 UEFA Europa League.
- To exclude FC Irtysh from participating in the next UEFA club competition for which it would otherwise qualify in the next three (3) seasons (i.e. the 2018/19, 2019/20 and 2020/21 seasons). This sanction is deferred for a probationary period of (3) three years. This exclusion must be enforced in case the Club participates again in a UEFA club competition having not fulfilled the licence criteria required to obtain the UEFA licence in accordance with the CL&FFP Regulations.
- FC Irtysh is to pay three thousand Euros (€3,000) towards the costs of these proceedings. “
The deferral was because unlike Rangers FC, FC Irtysh had properly disclosed to the licensor the correct & accurate financial information required, so the exclusion was deferred for a probationary period of (3) years.
Comment in respect of the award of a UEFA Licence in 2011 to Rangers FC.
From the foregoing it could be deduced that had Rangers FC qualified for the Champions League (or European League) and not gone bust as a result and so not entered liquidation BUT it became public knowledge by 2012 that a licence had been wrongly and possibly fraudulently granted then
- Rangers would have been fined the equivalent of their earnings from their participation in the UEFA competitions in 2011
- At least a two year ban from UEFA Competitions would have been imposed, but more likely three in view of repeated incorrect statements.
- The consequences of both would have been as damaging for Rangers survival as the real life consequences of losing to Malmo and Maribor in the qualifying rounds of the Champions and European Leagues.
Karma eh!
Interestingly in the UEFA COMPLIANCE AND INVESTIGATION ACTIVITY REPORT 2015 – 2017 , the CFCB investigatory chamber recommended that both the Kazakhstan FA and Swiss FA as licensors
“pay particular attention to the adequate disclosure of the outstanding amounts payable towards other football clubs, in respect of employees and towards social/tax authorities, which must be disclosed separately;
Would the same recommendation apply to the Scottish FA with regard to their performance in 2011 and will the SFA responses thereafter to shareholders in a member club be examined for compliance with best governance practice by the SFA Compliance Officer investigating the processing of the UEFA Licence in 2011?
This would be a welcome step in fully restoring trust in the SFA.
Seeing as colours are topical at the moment:
CELTIC have issued BLUE season cards to the fans in the rail seating end of the stadium much to the hilarity of the Celtic fans.
Somehow can’t imagine Ibrox issuing green cards!
BORDERSDONJULY 6, 2018 at 11:24
JustTheFactsJuly 6, 2018 at 10:42 Folk do get hurt and maimed simply for wearing the wrong colours in the wrong area. Wise up. By the way I never dwell in the gutter all I do is highlight it when I see it.————————————————————————————-Yes one of my sons was badly beaten up a couple of years ago by 3 guys with non Aberdeen accents for wearing a Dons top, in Aberdeen! We had beaten Hamilton that day. All teams, including mine, have nutter supporters. There was nothing sectarian about that incident.ps He has no evidence it was guys from Hamilton.
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Sorry to hear that bud and I reckon there will be more than a few looking in or commenting in here with similar stories.
The thing is it is fairly accepted that the colour Orange has long since been associated with a certain section of Society who have certain views that are both outdated and frankly appalling in this day and age.
This is not a simple case of a Club rivalries perhaps boiling over but has the potential to create a spark for those who cannot refrain from reacting to casual bigotry in whatever shape or form it takes?
Most can and do rise above it but unfortunately that’s not the case for some.
it is those types that this top is aimed at, a casual get it up ye to another set of fans from a different background with a different outlook to life in general.
The reason for requesting his colour top is fairly obvious.
It keeps the numpty element within their Club happy whilst bringing financial gain to their Club.
So in effect they tickle the bigot bellies whilst emptying their wallet and ignoring the ramifications of their actions should there be any.
I can’t say I am shocked by this move either as they prove once more to be quintessentially deplorable.
To rephrase.
“I consider that healthy, lets face it the world would be a peaceful place if we all agreed on everything. “
HELPUMOOTJULY 6, 2018 at 10:56
Allyjambo,
“Interesting that in his (Nick’s) first post on the blog for a while….”Nope!
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Nope as in? Interesting? Or first post on the blog for a while?
If you don’t find it interesting, then fair enough, but I said ‘for a while’ because, from memory alone, I hadn’t seen a post from him, for a while – for a while holding a meaning that is dependent on what the reader, himself, considers to be a while, I’d consider that a frequent poster not posting for over a week (it could be longer) could be described as a while unless a more accurate measurement of time is required.
The point of my post, though, was that he was ridiculing the blog, while ignoring the far more intellectual debate over King and the TOP, which is surely more worthy of someone who considers himself above orange top debate than the rest of us do.
Interestingly, though perhaps not to all, when he encounters strong criticism of what he wrote, he insults the poster, then excuses himself from the debate he started, rather than to tackle any of the counter points raised.
A bigot is a bigot no matter the colours he wears.
Wearing a Orange strip isn’t going to change someone from being a decent member of society into a maniac wanting to inflict harm on others.
For what it is worth my daughter in law asked me if i would buy it for my 3 year old grandson. Being as she is from Newcastle she only sees it for what it is, a football strip.
@AllyJambo Nail on the head.
I would rather spend time on the real issues but when I see something like that I will comment.
JUSTTHEFACTSJULY 6, 2018 at 13:43
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@AllyJambo Nail on the head.I would rather spend time on the real issues but when I see something like that I will comment.
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And, in my opinion, you were perfectly correct to raise the point, showing the extreme level of violence that football colours can lead to in Scotland. Anyone who finds humour in debating that, and cause to ridicule those that would cast a critical eye over it, shows a complete lack of understanding of what ails Scottish football.
Nick
You say that the blog has gone down a depressing route. It might be argued that the opposite has happened in that things which were suppressed for too long in the sense of nothing changes let us keep silent about it are now more openly discussed.
Seamus Heaney wrote two poems “whatever you say say nothing” which was the way things were for too long and “The Other Side” which is essentially hopeful. I would commend the latter to anyone. It recognises the division we are discussing here is nothing to do with serious religion.
The exploitation of a discarded and aimless section of society by a criminal is much more than japery over an Orange top.
Can I clear something up, pardon my ignorance.
Has Dave King been served papers because he has been found guilty of contempt of Court, or because he is to be tried for contempt of Court.
NICKJULY 6, 2018 at 09:04
Grown men voicing outrage over the colour of a football top on the internet. We may just have reached peak Scottish football… (don’t you mean nadir?) I love the daftness and the unintentional comedic value provided by Rangers who’ve proved their own pettiness by launching a top deliberately aimed at <bigots> and those they are <bigoted against>. I love the unintentional comedy of grown men debating in a po-faced manner whether or not a cheap nylon t-shirt is a bigot.
I agree a short can’t be bigoted, but those who design in and wear it to cause offence clearly are. The actions of a bigot define a bigot.
Lest we forget:
So there we have it… a bit of banter on the internet about football shirts is the all-time low but “alarm and crowd trouble” provoked by a Celtic player, a Catholic, blessing himself in the manner Catholic footballers have blessed themselves all over the world, for tens of decades is the cause of a criminal charge in Scotland?
Oh and any pretence “Nick” is a Hibs fan is now entirely shredded…
Re the mandarin top
Is this the official european top?
The home and away kit is used for home SPFL games and away SPFL games,and sometimes swapped around if there is a colour clash.
A third kit is used more for cup games and european games.That is what i assume anyway,And all strip designs and colours should be registered to the SFA by such a date,the date alludes me for the moment.
Anyway if the mandarin top is for europe,and anyone who buy’s one in October if the ibrox club is out of europe should be pointed at and laughed at,A european top that never seen europe.
Could be another record for them
Allyjambo.
The ‘nope’ comment – which I thought you’d get – was saying that he has indeed posted on here since last week. In fact every single day. Just under a different name. My apologies if it wasn’t as obvious as I had thought.
A coloured top is just a coloured top in the same way the ”N’ word is just a jumble of letters from the alphabet.
When used by certain people in certain ways it just puts us all backwards to the centuries of old.
Some people down Ibrox way are still stuck in the past and willing to exploit others of a like mind as it really is all they have left.
No vision, no dignity, no scruples, no future.
Not sure if was deleted as cannot see it on here so trying again.
On the share “purchase” the actual “sale” document appears to suggest there was no change of money. It looks like a change of investment vehicle from being a private owner to maybe one of his companies or something. Not 100% though.
HelpumootJuly 6, 2018 at 15:55
Allyjambo.The ‘nope’ comment – which I thought you’d get – was saying that he has indeed posted on here since last week. In fact every single day. Just under a different name. My apologies if it wasn’t as obvious as I had thought.
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Cheers, mate, glad that’s cleared up. To be honest, I was a bit bemused by your post as I didn’t think you’d sympathise with someone who would mock this blog, let alone see humour in an Ibrox club with an orange strip, but didn’t get what you were meaning. I get it now, and can see it’s merits
wottpiJuly 6, 2018 at 16:00
A coloured top is just a coloured top in the same way the ”N’ word is just a jumble of letters from the alphabet.When used by certain people in certain ways it just puts us all backwards to the centuries of old.Some people down Ibrox way are still stuck in the past and willing to exploit others of a like mind as it really is all they have left.No vision, no dignity, no scruples, no future.
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Nicely put, WOTTPI.
The Thistle Service takes place once every two years to install new members of the Order of the Thistle.
I was thinking surely David Murray and Dave King are members of this illustrious body, then I read:
“Both the Duke of Cambridge, 35, and the Princess Royal, 67, also wore green velvet robes and feathered hats as they attended the service.”
Green velvet robes? No thanks! You can stick your thistle….
SLIMJIMJULY 6, 2018 at 13:39
A bigot is a bigot no matter the colours he wears.Wearing a Orange strip isn’t going to change someone from being a decent member of society into a maniac wanting to inflict harm on others.For what it is worth my daughter in law asked me if i would buy it for my 3 year old grandson. Being as she is from Newcastle she only sees it for what it is, a football strip.
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Did she aye?
Away n raffle yersel mate.
So let’s suppose at the first 2angers v Celtic game of the Season when there are a mere 800 Celtic Supporters shoe horned into a corner of the Crumbledomem that they are surrounded by 20,000 Orange clad rsouls singing about being up to their knees in a certain blood type unknown to medical science?
You think that’s an acceptable scenario at Football game in 2018?
I know I don’t.
Btw that’s a scenario that your poor excuses for a Board has potentially enabled this coming Season.
JUSTTHEFACTS.
Yes she did actually, however difficult that is for you to believe. Not everyone sees a Orange football strip the way you obviously do.
I feel yourself and a few others have been waiting for 15 years to vent their spleen on this subject.
HomunculusJuly 6, 2018 at 15:03
.’..Has Dave King been served papers because he has been found guilty of contempt of Court, or because he is to be tried for contempt of Court.’
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I rather think that the ‘papers’ served consist of a warrant, signed by a Judge here asking the Prosecuting Authorities in South Africa to arrest King and bring him before a SA court .
The Court in South Africa will first of all have to check that there is a prima facie case, and that the alleged crime is one which is covered in the Commonwealth Agreement on reciprocity in criminal matters, and whether the accused may have Constitutional rights NOT to be extradited, and that the the maximum penalty in SA for the alleged crime is two years or more.
If all of that checks out, I think extradition will be the outcome, although it seems to be possible for the SA court to ‘try’ the case itself as if the alleged offence had happened in SA.
But if any of the conditions aren’t met, the SA court will have to throw the warrant out, and let King walk.
If you have tried to read up on the subject you will know how fiendishly difficult it is to get to grips with this kind of contempt of court, unlike civil contempt, or the kind of contempt of yobbos hurling abuse at the sheriff, or people not obeying orders to pay maintenance, or journalists reporting things when there are reporting restrictions in place, and such like.
I think that if King were to be extradited to face trial, the trial judge would NOT be the judge(Lord Bannatyne) whose order was not complied with- because he would in a sense be both the prosecutor and judge!
John ClarkJuly 6, 2018 at 19:11
HomunculusJuly 6, 2018 at 15:03.’..Has Dave King been served papers because he has been found guilty of contempt of Court, or because he is to be tried for contempt of Court.’___________________I rather think that the ‘papers’ served consist of a warrant, signed by a Judge here asking the Prosecuting Authorities in South Africa to arrest King and bring him before a SA court .The Court in South Africa will first of all have to check that there is a prima facie case, and that the alleged crime is one which is covered in the Commonwealth Agreement on reciprocity in criminal matters, and whether the accused may have Constitutional rights NOT to be extradited, and that the the maximum penalty in SA for the alleged crime is two years or more.If all of that checks out, I think extradition will be the outcome, although it seems to be possible for the SA court to ‘try’ the case itself as if the alleged offence had happened in SA.But if any of the conditions aren’t met, the SA court will have to throw the warrant out, and let King walk.If you have tried to read up on the subject you will know how fiendishly difficult it is to get to grips with this kind of contempt of court, unlike civil contempt, or the kind of contempt of yobbos hurling abuse at the sheriff, or people not obeying orders to pay maintenance, or journalists reporting things when there are reporting restrictions in place, and such like.I think that if King were to be extradited to face trial, the trial judge would NOT be the judge(Lord Bannatyne) whose order was not complied with- because he would in a sense be both the prosecutor and judge!
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I know nothing of the intricacies of extradition, but I would imagine it must be an expensive and time consuming process, and so not a route that any court would go down in a case where a slapped wrist is on the agenda. So, while I’ll not get carried away with the thought that extradition is being sought, should it turn out that it is, then Mr King is in for one rough ride, even if he manages to dodge the extradition.
Interesting times.
JOHN CLARKJULY 6, 2018 at 19:11
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HomunculusJuly 6, 2018 at 15:03.’..Has Dave King been served papers because he has been found guilty of contempt of Court, or because he is to be tried for contempt of Court.’___________________I rather think that the ‘papers’ served consist of a warrant, signed by a Judge here asking the Prosecuting Authorities in South Africa to arrest King and bring him before a SA court .
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Is that you off to South Africa then John?.
Assuming the procedure you mention to be correct John, it could really be seen as an act of urgency. Regardless of how it pans out in S.A. courts, the warrant will remain active in the UK, and he could easily be nabbed at Heathrow if TOP had wanted to wait.
BBC Sport
@BBCSport
Parma striker Emanuele Calaio has been charged with match-fixing (link: https://bbc.in/2m46a3P) bbc.in/2m46a3P
9:26 pm · 6 Jul 2018
Corrupt officialJuly 6, 2018 at 21:01
‘.. Assuming the procedure you mention to be correct John, it could really be seen as an act of urgency…’
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You’re right to be cautious about assuming I’m right, Corrupt Official, ’cause I ain’t no lawyer!
As regards ‘urgency’ it seems(under the London Scheme, anyway, if that is what applies) that if the SA court is happy with everything, extradition will be ordered after the expiry of 15 days, and then the requesting country has one month to come and wheech the accused, otherwise the court will [ subject to things like due notice having been given] let the accused walk.
I may be wildly off the mark and maybe the London Agreement has been scrapped, replaced or is otherwise irrelevant.
You can see this Scheme on this link:
http://www.oas.org/juridico/english/mesicic3_jam_london.pdf
But it would be good if some actual lawyer who may read the blog would fill us in on the precise mechanics that may apply in this case, maybe someone in Bogstandard Ernson?
JUSTTHEFACTSJULY 6, 2018 at 17:04
SLIMJIMJULY 6, 2018 at 13:39
A bigot is a bigot no matter the colours he wears.Wearing a Orange strip isn’t going to change someone from being a decent member of society into a maniac wanting to inflict harm on others.For what it is worth my daughter in law asked me if i would buy it for my 3 year old grandson. Being as she is from Newcastle she only sees it for what it is, a football strip.
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Did she aye?Away n raffle yersel mate.So let’s suppose at the first 2angers v Celtic game of the Season when there are a mere 800 Celtic Supporters shoe horned into a corner of the Crumbledomem that they are surrounded by 20,000 Orange clad rsouls singing about being up to their knees in a certain blood type unknown to medical science?You think that’s an acceptable scenario at Football game in 2018?I know I don’t.Btw that’s a scenario that your poor excuses for a Board has potentially enabled this coming Season.
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At first I wasn’t really that bothered about the Colour of the strip. However, JUSTTHEFACTS, you’re post and the hypothetical situation you describe made me think again.
Whilst I’m still uncomfortable with labelling someone who chooses to wear that top as a bigot (such broad-brush approaches are unfair IMHO) there is something quite ‘Trumpian’ about the whole thing.
By releasing an Orange top Rangers are clearly and deliberately making a statement. There are no words but what it might do is emboldened and encourage those in the support to act even more appallingly, leading to the scenario you describe, and that’s a very depressing thought.
Yes, it is ‘just’ a top but surely they can see how petty and stupid it makes them look. Do they need the money that much? Probably. Very disappointing.
https://www.thescottishsun.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2017/03/nintchdbpict000306318031-e1488585014887.jpg?strip=all&w=960
slimjim
July 6, 2018 at 13:39
For what it is worth my daughter in law asked me if i would buy it for my 3 year old grandson. Being as she is from Newcastle she only sees it for what it is, a football strip.
So what gallery was this muppet playing to?
And Caixinha is adopting a no-nonsense approach for his team this season as he looks to improve on their third-place finish, where they ended 39 points behind Celtic.
Caixinha told the Daily Record: “From today, no one will wear boots of that colour because it is the colour of Celtic.
“The slogan ‘We are the People’ will be stamped on the walls for both our players and opponents to feel the strength of Rangers.
BB 22.28
I posted on a couple of Rangers forums at the time calling this nonsense out for what it was.
Meanwhile Nikola Katic will no doubt be targeted by the colour police after wearing a pair of Orange boots in this evenings 6-0 victory over Bury in front of 41,025 supporters.
As I said earlier, interesting times
https://philmacgiollabhain.ie/2018/07/06/general-ashley-puts-his-tanks-into-forward-gear/
JOHN CLARKJULY 6, 2018 at 21:42
Thanks for the link John. Like you I’m no lawyer, but I would suggest that showing contempt to a UK court is deep doo-doo.
BillydugJuly 6, 2018 at 21:31 ” Parma striker Emanuele Calaio has been charged with match-fixing (link: https://bbc.in/2m46a3P) bbc.in/2m46a3P9:26 pm · 6 Jul 2018
The case has been passed by the Italian FA to the Federal National Court.”
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Match-fixing accusations, allegations, are serious matters that need professional investigation because lots of money are involved for punters and for the club that is betrayed.
It seems to me that the Italian FA , having been told there is the smell of the proverbial, have taken the only appropriate action: they have taken it out of ‘football’ and sent it into the sphere of criminality, for professional, public prosecutorial/ police investigation and thence into the Courts.
What then of allegations that a sports governance body itself was complicit in a scheme to slide a few million quid in a non-entitled direction by telling porkies about a club’s finances? ?
What would be the appropriate action?
It certainly would not be to order an ‘internal review’ which excluded a review of that governance body’s own actions, and was limited to a period of time which excluded the period of time on which the allegations are related to.
This is the essence of the whole mad farce that Scottish Football now finds itself starring in: a farce in which we see a governance body that by its own actions in cobbling up the 5-way agreement rendered itself utterly untrustworthy in what it has to say about any matter concerning either RFC(IL) of 2011/12( aka RFC 2012[IL] or SevcoScotland(or, just maybees Sevco 5088) aka TRFC Ltd of 2012.
Or, indeed, about any bloody aspect of Scottish Football!
Mods, I take it you don’t approve of ma wee jokes,
they can’t be that bad, can they? …. 🙂
Anyway ah’ll keep pluggin’ away.
Thank to everyone for some great contributions today. I am struggling to keep up but love when things start racing like this. 67 pages of comment -I think I blinked when we were on 64! Even Phil has made two posts in one day for the first time in a while. Yes, AJ, the latest one is very interesting indeed. How did this little case slip under our radar? (Or did I miss something on pg 66?
Ashley’s tanks are on the move!
armchairsupporterJuly 6, 2018 at 23:54
Thank to everyone for some great contributions today. I am struggling to keep up but love when things start racing like this. 67 pages of comment -I think I blinked when we were on 64! Even Phil has made two posts in one day for the first time in a while. Yes, AJ, the latest one is very interesting indeed. How did this little case slip under our radar? (Or did I miss something on pg 66?Ashley’s tanks are on the move!
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The legal document was much too much for me, but the case does seem to involve the rushed announcement of the new strips. I kind of think it won’t come to much, with TRFC agreeing to fall back in line with whatever agreement they have with SDI/Ashley, but it will be costing them a few bob, and causing some concern around Ibrox – but at least the (must be) world record number of court cases centred on that particular football stadium keeps rising!
JC, we also actually know that one of the members of the board of the cheating club even received a payment via EBT after he had left the club and while he was playing a central role in Scottish football governance.
One of the their former managers also received an EBT for ‘just some scouting work’ ten years after he left that club. This individual was investigated by the English police. The investigation led them to Ibrox which is how the side letters came to light.
This isn’t about whether EBT’s were legal, whether it was tax avoidance or evasion. These two payments themselves contravened football laws and those involved should have been kicked out of football, at the very least. A member club gave ninety grand to a senior member of the SFA so he agreed to recuse himself when matters pertaining to RangersIL were discussed at the SFA. Nothing happened to him. But recently a man in a less senior position was forced to resign for something he said years ago.
After everything that’s come to light – and is continuing under Dave King – Police Scotland aren’t interested. Astonishing!
slimjimJuly 6, 2018 at 22:40
BB 22.28 I posted on a couple of Rangers forums at the time calling this nonsense out for what it was.
Meanwhile Nikola Katic will no doubt be targeted by the colour police after wearing a pair of Orange boots in this evenings 6-0 victory over Bury in front of 41,025 supporters.
Think so why would that be mate? i dont recall old Rangers or any issue from anyone having a problem with other attire, i think you are deluding yourself and really only wanted to comment on the score tonight as no-one had mentioned it.
I think you have the wrong end of the stick it was your own leader at the time of the old club who felt orange tops was promoting an agenda he did not want the club involved in.
“RANGERS owner Charles Green has ruled out introducing an orange strip next season.
Previous owner Sir David Murray banned orange merchandise after the club were accused of profiting from sectarianism.
Critics claimed they shouldn’t use the colour of the Orange Order.
Green indicated a possible u-turn on the ban during a Q&A session with fans in Northern Ireland two weeks ago. When asked if the club would consider an orange kit, he said: “Yes, they have a number of designs and are coming near agreement with Adidas.”
But Ibrox officials ruled out such a move for at least a season. They said: “There are no plans for an orange kit next season.”
The club claimed their orange strip in 2002 was a tribute to their Dutch players.
In 2005, Murray axed non-traditional colours under an anti-sectarianism drive.”
So basically there was no orange in the old rangers, maybe sevco have adopted would need to ask the SFA to confirm if its in the colour scheme of strips and registered or is it just a money drive.
A “wee” bedtime read. ….. Goodnight all.
http://www.bailii.org/cgi-bin/format.cgi?doc=/ew/cases/EWHC/Comm/2018/1697.html&query=(Rangers)+AND+(king)
I seem to remember a Rangers manager putting a stop to the red at the top of the home socks. There was a convoluted reason given but it was widely thought that it was because of the connotations with ‘up to our knees in fenian blood’
Progressive thinking. What happened?
I could have sworn that I remember much trumpeting in the SMSM that Sports Direct had been sent packing and that the GASL has vanquished Ashley.
Turns out the reality is that Rangers can enter into an agreement with another Company, but have to give Sports Direct full information about the deal, and even better than that – Sports Direct can decide to match the offer and Rangers have to continue using them!
Or am I reading it wrong?
AllyjamboJuly 6, 2018 at 22:57
‘…As I said earlier, interesting times.’
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A quick read of Mr Justice Bryan’s judgment ( c/o Phil’s link) suggests that Hummel may be getting the bum(mel)s rushl
And clearly makes the point that an award of damages against TRFC would be of no feckin use because they haven’t the dosh to pay!
Ashley knows how to take on inadequate punks like those on the ( considerably reduced in number)Board of RIFC plc.
Couple of points on the injunction just granted :
1. The agreement between the parties appears to be evergreen at MA’s discretion
2. I may be wrong but I suspect MA’s legal team are experienced in drafting such agreements – I’d be surprised if they had left TRFC with a loophole
3. Damages are contractually limited to £1m. This has worked against TRFC in the decision to grant an injunction – performance of the contract is key rather than later damages (which appear almost impossible to quantify) for a failure to so do
4. RIFC appear to have given the equivalent of a parent company guarantee
5. The current agreement is claimed by TRFC to be loss-making (setting aside royalties from Puma)
6. The new vendor seems to think his only issue is one of time – fitting the shop out, etc before sales kick off in August.
Please correct or add to the above.
If MA prevails in court – and this will be heard next week due to the urgency of the matter – it is not going to reflect well on the world class deal-making skills at RIFC/TRFC.
Scottish Football needs a strong Arbroath.
Mr. Macgiollbhain is a member of the NUJ and as such, must be measured in what he prints for public consumption.
Would it be safe to say that only half-witted imbeciles would believe anything that was said by a convicted criminal who has been described as a mendacious witness and a glib and shameless liar by a court of law?
Of course not.
Those fellows are all upstanding, successful businessmen who have made their fortunes by virtue of their intelligence and business acumen.
Surely none of those men of indubitable high business ranking could have been mesmerised by the subliminal instructions of the snake from Kaastlemilk?
Of course not.
They did it willingly of their own accord. Allegedly.
They had their money and gave it willingly to Bruno Alves, Jordan Rossiter, Mark Warburton, Carlos Pena, Pedro Caixinha, Eduardo Herrera………and now they give it to Steven Gerrard, Gary McAllister…… and the new host of Galacticons.
But according to the perhaps facetious Mr Macghiollobhain, only now is a “highly intelligent member of the RIFC Board finally seeing the situation clearly”.
Unfortunately, Phil does not tell us what “highly intelligent” means by comparison.
Is there such a thing as a brain damaged blue bottle?
So what can we gleam from this report assuming it’s correct and above board Which in have no reason to doubt.
1) Yet again, King has made an 4rse of it. Mouthing off about SD and riling up a guy who is as equally unafraid of COURTS as King himself.
2) it could potentially cost us another £1m on top of the previous £3 mil.
3) as of Tuesday we could be back in partnership with SD again.
4) Phil doesn’t have any contacts feeding him information from Shop Direct after all. Ironically his blog 2 days ago said he had spoken with his contact at Shirebrook and that they weren’t picking up the phone to Rangers. You would have thought the guy would have told him they were in court on Monday.
SDI Retail claim that they should be given the chance to match the deal offered by any new supplier in the following three areas.
“Offered Rights” is defined in paragraph 1.1.4 of Schedule 3 as follows:
“1.1.4 Offered Right means each of the following rights 9i whole or in part):
(i) the right to operate and manage the Retail Operations;
“The retail sales of branded products, replica kit and additional products at the ground, including at the Rangers megastore and on the Rangers web store.”
(ii) the right to perform the Permitted Activities in relation to the Branded Products and/or the Additional Products; and/or
“The Products bearing any Rangers-related brands (including the Ranger of Brands.”
(iii) the right to perform the Permitted Activities in relation to the Official Kit and/or the Replica Kit.”
PORTBHOY
JULY 7, 2018 at 00:25
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I look forward to the full analysis of this development in the Scottish press.
Homunculus, I’m sure Jackson will be working on it right now.
https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/dave-kings-finest-rangers-hour-10672628
Just catching up with the latest court case,and not had my coffee yet
EASYJAMBOJULY 7, 2018 at 06:37
SDI Retail claim that they should be given the chance to match the deal offered by any new supplier in the following three areas.
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My reading is and please correct if wrong.
If Ashley wins the new mandarin tops will have to be bought from sports direct.
Did king not tell the ibrox fans when they bought two season old kits last year that they now had a great deal with sports direct (plus a £3mill payment he did not mention at the time) that this deal would only last one year
Or am i getting it wrong,or has Mr king been telling the ibrox fans fibs again?
With every passing day Mr king makes the ibrox fans and the SMSM look so stupid
HELPUMOOTJULY 7, 2018 at 08:47
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After reading that.
As i said.With every passing day Mr king makes the ibrox fans and the SMSM look so stupid
HELPUMOOT
JULY 7, 2018 at 08:47
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Things like that wouldn’t have wound Mike Ashley up.
Bottom line, Dave King misled the fans again. He claimed to have saw SD off, and didn’t mention the £3m it had cost, which only came out in the accounts. He also failed to mention this part of the deal.
I think I said at the time I wasn’t entirely convinced this was all done and dusted and that the split with SD was complete.
CLUSTER ONEJULY 6, 2018 at 15:52
,A european top that never seen europe.And you bought it from Sports Direct.
Could be another record for them
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A small update to a post from yesterday
Anyway if the mandarin top is for europe,and anyone who buy’s one in October if the ibrox club is out of europe should be pointed at and laughed at
Re the mandarin tops .
Let’s dispense with the pretence shall we and just accept it for what it is .
A desperate pandering to the bigoted faction within the sevco 2012 support .
When ragers 1872 ceased to exist , I always knew a team playing in blue out of ibrokes would emerge and I honestly believed that I would be more than happy to see them eventually reach the spl and we could all get down to building a rivalry as opposing football teams vying for the trophies up for grabs .
My gripe was never with sevco 2012 or any of the people who were willing to make a go of the new club .
All I was interested in was seeing justice done regards the peepil involved in the cheating that had gone on in the previous club and that included the peepil running our game .
Alas the more I see of the direction this new club is taking the more I find myself hoping that it follows the old club to the grave and that for me is a sad indictment of our game .
It seems the new club has taken the worst elements of the old club and even worse are actively encouraging the support to openly show it .
The thing those supporters don’t realise is that DK and his pandering to the bigoted element in their midst is doing them more and more harm ,it is short term thinking and IMO shows how desperate things have become over there .
The Sevco 2012 supporters have to remove DK ASAP the guy is dragging their club ever further down a route they should have made sure they walked away from .
Alas it may already be too late
HOMUNCULUSJULY 7, 2018 at 08:59
HELPUMOOTJULY 7, 2018 at 08:47======================================
Things like that wouldn’t have wound Mike Ashley up.
Bottom line, Dave King misled the fans again. He claimed to have saw SD off, and didn’t mention the £3m it had cost, which only came out in the accounts. He also failed to mention this part of the deal.
I think I said at the time I wasn’t entirely convinced this was all done and dusted and that the split with SD was complete.
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Put much better than me.
But can i add?
Bottom line, Dave King misled the fans and the smsm again and they still love him.They still love him as they believe he will come good.There is no one else for them they are all in for king.
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This guy knew.as someone said on twitter.
somer might be to rangers international what hugh adam was to rangers fc
FAN OF FOOTBALL
JULY 7, 2018 at 09:03
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They pandered at the earliest possible opportunity.
This is from Charles Green’s visit to the Ireland, several years ago.
CLUSTER ONE 08.50
This subject was discussed by Rangers fans a few months ago and your summary in entirely accurate.
If SD match any deal Rangers agree with a third party (JD Sports) then they are the retail partners once again. No ifs buts or maybe’s, no wiggle room as far as i can see for us. The only positive from a Rangers point of view is that we get to negotiate terms with the third party, and only then do SD have their say on whether they want to proceed on these terms.
The £3 million paid to SD last year could well have been for another purpose shall we say.
CLUSTER ONE
JULY 7, 2018 at 09:13
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He said the CVA should be rejected. The old club got liquidated.
He said fans should not buy season tickets, I think he even offered to allow them to let the money rest in his account. Putting it in severe financial difficulty.
He drove the share price down to about 20p so that he and his cohort could buy a substantial portion of the PLC (over 30%). Leading to all sorts of issues, which are still ongoing.
he had a public war with Sports Direct, costing them millions, and it is still going on.
They still think he is the Messiah.
It really is astonishing.
Murray killed the old club, King is killing this one.
For a relatively new club/company there has been an awful lot of friction over the last few years re Team and Replica Kit. Contracts torn up with existing suppliers etc. It just seems to get more bizarre with every new revelation. King has indeed been very economical with the truth hen it comes to the fans although I do feel that with nothing and no one else to have any faith in they are now in too deep to contradict or question his motives and his behaviour. My gut feeling re the alternative outlet for the new replica kit is that the 24 hour director was approached to provide this outlet as he had done with the ‘Alternative’ red and black shirt during the protestation years. The baton seems to have been handed over and accepted without a word of concern from either party as to how this would affect any existing contracts. This is the norm down Ibrox way nowadays. Act first. Try and resolve in court later.
Billy I canny buy you the orange top yet; cos Mike Ashley says so. Your talking pish Lizzie our messiah Dave told him tae get tae f*** a while ago. Sorry Billy Dave lied. F*** this pass me my sash I am of for a walk . Internet bambots say “Confused Billy, you will be mark our words. Still enjoy your day.”
HOMUNCULUSJULY 7, 2018 at 09:23
CG did indeed don an orange top on his visit to NI and I bet he couldn’t wait to get out of there ASAP
Only after he had said all the right things to ensure their backing of course .
But even he stopped short of releasing the bigot cloth onto the players backs
Cluster OneJuly 7, 2018 at 09:13
Long time lurker but the latest shenanigans has compelled me to post
The thing is they have no one else to look to. DK was the nearest thing to a Real Rangers Messiah they could get and are still blinded to his (many) disastrous business dealings. They are an even more toxic brand than they were when they pheonixed back in 2012. I don’t see where they go from here. I am still utterly baffled why DK wanted to get involved in this again – what did he hope to gain when everyman and his dog could more or less see that the future was not looking good without a complete overhaul. I have been castigated at work for saying that David Murray killed the old club and DK is killing the new one. Still it remains the gift that keeps giving.
WEEANDYOJULY 7, 2018 at 10:42
Welcome on board
B e f o r e :
MR. JUSTICE BRYAN____________________
Between:
SDI RETAIL SERVICES LIMITED
Claimant
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DAVID KINGPAUL MURRAYTHE RANGERS FOOTBALL LIMITED RANGERS RETAIL LIMITED
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Why Paul murray when he has walked away.and could this be another reason Pau murray walked away?
In a wee while Nick will be along to mock us for being:
“Grown men voicing outrage* over the retailer** of a football top on the internet. We may just have reached peak Scottish football.”
Interesting how the cause of the ‘outrage’ we displayed over TRFC’s pandering to the extreme bigots in their support has, quite possibly, led RIFC/TRFC back into court. If correct, it is a combination of the club’s desperation for cash and the bigotry that surrounds Ibrox, displayed in the orange top, that has led to the mistake of announcing the new kit too soon, allowing SDI to act on onerous (to TRFC) clauses in their contract.
We know that David Murray’s desperation to find the funding to stay ahead of Celtic led to his tax cheating that eventually led to RFC’s fall into liquidation. Are we now witnessing King’s own desperation leading to TRFC breaking contracts (in this case, with a ‘superpower’ of a company) that might eventually see a similar outcome to that of Murray’s club?
Again, I don’t know, because I’m not clever enough to follow the wording of the injunction, but it would appear to me that SDI/Ashley consider they will make more money by enforcing the contract than they will by seeking damages, as damages are limited to £1m. Could that mean that SDI will syphon off more than £1m if their contract is honoured? Will that be more than £1m syphoned off from TRFC’s share of their deal with Hummel? Has that ‘more than £1m’, already been spent/committed to players’ contracts?
As I said, I (we) don’t know how much this latest court case will hurt TRFC, but one thing’s for certain, it will hurt!
*No outrage today, just healthy discussion with a helping of humour.
** it was ‘colour’ in the original post.
So………………Have Hummell been lied to tae?
Cluster OneJuly 7, 2018 at 11:18
B e f o r e :MR. JUSTICE BRYAN____________________Between:SDI RETAIL SERVICES LIMITEDClaimant– and –DAVID KINGPAUL MURRAYTHE RANGERS FOOTBALL LIMITED RANGERS RETAIL LIMITED——————–Why Paul murray when he has walked away.and could this be another reason Pau murray walked away?
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Perhaps because Paul Murray was a signatory to the contract (don’t know if he was)?
I doubt this case will be the reason for his leaving, for it’s unlikely he would have known at the time that the gun was going to be jumped before the SDI contract had ended. Either that, or he has a better insight into the workings of King’s criminal mind than we ever gave him credit for.
ALLYJAMBOJULY 7, 2018 at 11:24
Interesting how the cause of the ‘outrage’ we displayed over TRFC’s pandering to the extreme bigots in their support has, quite possibly, led RIFC/TRFC back into court. If correct, it is a combination of the club’s desperation for cash and the bigotry that surrounds Ibrox, displayed in the orange top, that has led to the mistake of announcing the new kit too soon, allowing SDI to act on onerous (to TRFC) clauses in their contract.
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Something had to be put out to deflect from the contempt of court.The club’s desperation may see them in court AGAIN.
Wonder if Hummel knew about this,and just how are they feeling this morning. First after a few emails about the mandarin kit
Wonder if an email was sent to hummel asking about the latest developments they would be so coy to refer you back to TRFC?
Corrupt officialJuly 7, 2018 at 11:26
So………………Have Hummell been lied to tae?
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If not, they will be the first people not to have been (lied to) within a minute of saying, ‘pleased to meet you, Dave’.
ALLYJAMBOJULY 7, 2018 at 11:32
I doubt this case will be the reason for his leaving,
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But i bet this morning he is having a huge sigh of relief he has left.
Cluster OneJuly 7, 2018 at 11:36
ALLYJAMBOJULY 7, 2018 at 11:24Interesting how the cause of the ‘outrage’ we displayed over TRFC’s pandering to the extreme bigots in their support has, quite possibly, led RIFC/TRFC back into court. If correct, it is a combination of the club’s desperation for cash and the bigotry that surrounds Ibrox, displayed in the orange top, that has led to the mistake of announcing the new kit too soon, allowing SDI to act on onerous (to TRFC) clauses in their contract.———————-Something had to be put out to deflect from the contempt of court.The club’s desperation may see them in court AGAIN.Wonder if Hummel knew about this,and just how are they feeling this morning. First after a few emails about the mandarin kitWonder if an email was sent to hummel asking about the latest developments they would be so coy to refer you back to TRFC?
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I would be very surprised, indeed, if Hummel had even an inkling of this onerous clause in the SDI contract. They may not be the biggest (far from it), and they were certainly dumb enough to get into bed with King and RIFC/TRFC, but I’m sure they wouldn’t risk upsetting someone that is as big as Mike Ashley is in their sector. Some Hummel executives will be waking up to a rather nasty shock this morning, I’m sure!
BIGBOAB1916JULY 7, 2018 at 00:19
Even back then the ibrox fan’s were so gullible
“RANGERS owner Charles Green has ruled out introducing an orange strip next season.Previous owner Sir David Murray banned orange merchandise after the club were accused of profiting from sectarianism.Critics claimed they shouldn’t use the colour of the Orange Order.Green indicated a possible u-turn on the ban during a Q&A session with fans in Northern Ireland two weeks ago. When asked if the club would consider an orange kit, he said: “Yes, they have a number of designs and are coming near agreement with Adidas.”
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ADIDAS
ALLYJAMBOJULY 7, 2018 at 11:46
Some Hummel executives will be waking up to a rather nasty shock this morning, I’m sure!
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In this hot weather it is very hard to get your hands on some jelly and icecream.
SLIMJIMJULY 6, 2018 at 19:07
You appear to have totally missed my point regarding the issue with this particular top SJ.
Now whether that is deliberate or otherwise I shall leave others to make their own minds up on that score.
My initial response was to a post which tried to make light of the fact folk were getting animated regarding this decision by the tribute act?
I wasn’t getting animated by the way ,in fact I had stayed clear of this up until the point of the post in question.
The response I gave was short and to the point and in fact I openly stated that I didn’t want to expand on the reasoning behind it but rather to remind him that a move like this could get serious further down the line due to the nature of the colour Orange and the strong links with the OO and sections within your fanbase.
A simple look through the various The 2angers sites will back up my theory that this could actually be the case.
I won’t quote any of the comments due to the nature of the content but I’m fairly sure that you are probably aware of the type of reactions I mean ?
I used an extreme example in the case of the young Celtic fan who was murdered simply because he had a Celtic Top on as an example of just how awful the situation can get regarding rivalries within Football but particularly this rivalry which goes back as you well know a very long time.
I will stress again I used this incident to highlight how extreme the rivalry can get.
I don’t have an issue with the colour Orange on its own.
Much the same I don’t have a problem with the swastika?
That same symbol means good fortune or well being in Hinduism.
This is purely about context and what this colour means to those who wish to wear it at a game or elsewhere?
It is the thinking behind using it and the sheer reckless,cynical approach by your Board in their attempts to make more money from it.
In this case pandering to those who frequent the shallow end of the Ibrox gene pool.
Someone on here rightly highlighted that generalising or painting every Supporter with the same brush is never a good idea and I fully back an endorse that point.
I am being specific about a certain type who will revert to type within Football if given the freedom to do so.
By approving this design your Club in their minds is advocating a certain approach to life.
My point was and still is the element who are bigots will wear this top in numbers while openly displaying the disgusting character traits and could well cause a major issue down the line?
My fear is this can quickly escalate from singing a few songs to openly giving it big time during or after a big game between the two Clubs and that those who cannot control their emotions through goading or otherwise might just take matters into their own hands and retaliate with more of the same.
Then where are we at?
Going back to a time where kids were maimed and injured in the Street for wearing the wrong Top in the wrong place.
It would appear to me that your Club has totally ignored the possibility of issues arising through their poor decision making in order to make a quick buck so to speak.
It would also appear from your post that you also have no issue with your Clubs decision either and see no problem with the potential incendiary effect it could have both in and outside of the game.
For me that speaks volumes about how you think.
Let us hope that there are no serious repercussions and that those who choose to wear these tops do so in the interests of Football and Football alone.
Forgive me if I don’t share your belief that it’s only an Orange (sorry Mandarin)Top and all will be well.
That is all I have to say on the matter now.
I couldn’t guarantee that Hummel were lied to but I think it’s fair to say they’ve been negligent.A wee bit of due diligence would have shown them the type of characters they were getting involved with.Maybe the lure of having the “Worlds most successful club” on their books was too much.Looks like they didn’t get their legals to check the terms of TRFCs existing contract.
On another level,if Ashley prevails in court then it seems he can sit back & let TRFC negotiate new deals.match the terms of the bits he likes & continue this arrangement indefinitely.I seem to recall someone last year(Phil?) reporting 1 RIFC director saying that if the true terms of the Ashley surrender were known the fans would be up in arms.Since then we’ve had the revelation that surrender cost £3m & now this.
If.as reported,this deal with Hummel is worth only 50% of the Puma deal,then legal costs could wipe out any profit due to TRFC.
Strip not yet on sale,no release date,court cases that put the entire deal in doubt,Hummel must be best pleased.Dave King,eh.
ALLYJAMBOJULY 7, 2018 at 11:39
Corrupt officialJuly 7, 2018 at 11:26 So………………Have Hummell been lied to tae?__________________
If not, they will be the first people not to have been (lied to) within a minute of saying, ‘pleased to meet you, Dave’.
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I imagine a jersey contract to be pretty precise, product numbers, delivery dates, storage, etc. It seems unthinkable that a delivery address would not have been provided for shipping, distribution and retail. I hope Imran’s maw has a big back room.
https://youtu.be/hoEle04qu_U
Tuesday 10th july for this court case
could put a dampner on the ibrox clubs european night two days later,Wonder if Mr king will attend both dates.
And if not why not is what the ibrox fans should be asking.But hey! we point then in the right direction and they continue to look the other way,maybe they look the other way over the horizon as a default mode, looking for someone to save them from the banter years.
JustTheFactsJuly 7, 2018 at 12:07
https://youtu.be/hoEle04qu_U
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Really enjoyed that, thank you