Two wrongs and a right

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John Clark 5th January 2016 at 11:57 pm #ThomTheThim 5th …

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John Clark 5th January 2016 at 11:57 pm #ThomTheThim 5th January 2016 at 9:09 pm‘….The Tax evasion/avoidance and improperly registered players offences will be swept away as being historical, belonging to the old company.At which time, the switcheroo wil be complete….’__________
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John, Agree completely with your response to my post.
It is the SFA who facilitated the whole shebang and it is they who must be called to account.
The results of the court cases have a mere passing interest for me, as it is the footballing crimes perpetrated  by the Murray regime that are of greater concern to the Game.
The cast of characters in conflict with Her Majesty, were nowhere near the scene of the corruption.
My fear is that, like the LNS decision to bind the DOS and EBT schemes together, the authorities will use the conclusion of the trials as an excuse to “move on”.
Away at the start of this business, a wise bampot counsel, suggested that the switcheroo would be done in three stages.
I believe we are approaching the end of the second stage, with the tribulations of TRFC and Third Rangers await in the wings.
When that happens, Scottish football is finished.
At present, I feel I am watching the equivalent of a pre season tournament, where they award a trophy for the winner. A worthless trinket in terms of sporting integrity.

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jockybhoy 14th January 2016 at 4:01 pm #

After the earlier incidents, they were given recommendations as to dealing with the situation.
One was to tunnel midway through the terracing, thereby reducing the volume of traffic emerging from the top of the stairs, combined with “fanning” the staircase, so that as spectators descended, the pressure of bodies was eased, due to the increased widening of the stairs on descent.
Neither was heeded nor incorporated, due to expense.
For anyone who may be interested, there is a very good article to be found, if you Google Fallen Masonry.


Two wrongs and a right
There is more court action these days than you would get during Wimbledon fortnight.


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BLUAUGUST 16, 2017 at 12:09
Thanks for the reply.
Not only were Celtic restricted in their business, but other clubs, like Hearts,who were denied a Euro place, due to granting of a licence under dubious circumstances.
Events have caught up with our exchanges, in that the Celtic Supporters Ass. reps have just reported on a meeting they had with Doncaster and Mc.Kenzie.
I don’t think that Celtic have officially called for a JR, but there are moves afoot to seek one.
Auldheid and BRTH are the men to explain what is happening there.
It was disclosed at that meeting that although Celtic were the only club to call for an Independent review publicly, the SPFL Board, with the support of the clubs, backed the call.
Fear is the reason that none of them spoke out. Memories of the trouble that visited Raith Rovers, after Turnbull Hutton’s stance, including an attempt to burn Starks Park.
Celtic’s power in Scottish football translates to one vote in the chambers of power.
Same as every other club…and so it should.
However, any business, and football is a business, should have the right to develop their enterprises in a fair market.
Scottish football has not been that for at least the last twenty years. It is the SFA’s responsibility to ensure the conditions prevail that all clubs can operate to their own limits, without the nonsense that they have protected and sanctioned.
They have been found out and exposed.
If they are unwilling or unable to reform, then they have to go. If not, then I would like my club to leave their corrupt operations.
Not feasible, I know, but it is the only honourable option.
It is not a Celtic v TRFC thing, even though many would like it to be seen as such.
It is up to 41 clubs to see that your Armageddon scenario doesn’t happen.
I don’t think I can add any more to the subject…..for now!


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JOHN CLARKAUGUST 15, 2017 at 23:36

Amen to that.#serendipity.


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BLUAUGUST 15, 2017 at 14:38

To date, I may be wrong, but Celtic are the only club to publicly state their disquiet at the silence from the authorities, re any ramifications of the Supreme Court verdict.
They have asked for a review of the LNS conclusions. They also expressed concern at the time.
It would appear that all other clubs are happy to operate under the status quo, even though it has been exposed as a corrupt sham.
The grounds for seeking to leave are connected to the inability to pursue their business in an open and fair environment, which can have a detrimental effect on investors and shareholders, as well as an emotional effect on supporters.
Recent events have shown how physically unsafe Ibrox is and that is before you consider structural safety.
There is no appetite, there’s that word again, either in political. football or media circles to push for meaningful change and certainly not amongst “diddy”, (your word, not mine) clubs.
Personally, I think that those are enough grounds to kick the dust of Scottish football from our heels.
As to whom you apply and where do you go, that is the uanswerable question.
It would have to be by invitation, as in the case of Derry City, when their playing invironment became intolerable.
It would all be needless,if the aforementioned stakeholders, for once, acted in the name of integrity and for the proper good of the game.


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Sometimes, very rarely, actually, I have a certain sympathy for Scottish journalists.
I think their main fault is in trying to keep hold of their job in a small theatre of action.
None of them are free to write whatever they want. They are controlled by editors and owners.
In Scotland, that is about two or three entities.
Anyone scribe who submits a critical piece on the glaring issues in the game, would first of all find his article spiked….closely followed by his P45 on his desk.

As in the game in general, the supporter, reader, customer, is the one with the ultimate power.
Another wee thought.
In the absence of any vocal demand from the other 40 clubs, for a proper J R,
Would Celtic have a case to present to ? for relocation?
As thing stands, Scottish football is not a fair or safe place for the club to conduct it’s business.
All that would be unnecessary if the combined authorities in Scotland acted in a manner that would cleanse the game from all it’s evils.


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It is difficult to reject the idea, in light of the now transparent breaches of the Law of the Land and of Football, that should the football authorities and ALL clubs not seek to cleanse the game of the practices that facilitated the misdemeanors, that a club, who feel that they are the main victims, should seek fresh pastures.
(Sorry for the long sentence, but I couldn’t get off it!)
Sorry also for being parochial, but, at the outset, I claimed that my club, Celtic, had only two options open to them, if they were not going to be seen as complicit in events and condoning them, much like an innocent, deceived spouse who continues to live with the deceiver.
Those options were to relocate to another League, if any would have them,like Derry City,
  OR 
Shut the shop and say that the cheats have won, like Belfast Celtic.
Unless the SFA/SPFL are called to account, to continue to be a member club is condoning the actions by default.
I may add that neither of my options are feasible, therefore unless meaningful change is effected, then all clubs will be complicit in condoning the actions of the governing bodies.

PS,
Trish, you’ve got mail.


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