Who Is Conning Whom?


Immediate apologies for the whataboutery but some may have seen …

Comment on Who Is Conning Whom? by wottpi.

Immediate apologies for the whataboutery but some may have seen the story re Police Scotland making comment with regard to stadium safety at Tynecastle.

This from the force who appeared not to be prepared for a highly probably pitch invasion in the event of Hibs winning the Scottish Cup.

The same force who allow certain fans to spew their bigoted bile week in week out.

The same force (along with the SMSM) who fail to have followed up much publicized concerns over stadium safety at a certain location south of the Clyde.

Apparently they are more concerned about a Football Manager getting sent to the stand and the lack of water in the bogs.

I’m all for getting these minor issues sorted out but Lord help us if this is what passes as major news worthy of reporting when so much else is going on in Scottish Football. 11

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Who Is Conning Whom?
JOHN CLARKDECEMBER 8, 2017 at 11:50

I did say Stewart was ‘one of the few’ and I can’t say that I heard the bold Chic’s take on things but glad to hear what you say in that regard, despite your obvious pain. 10

The fact remains that far too many in the media and within the game were willing to accept what they saw as the inevitable (based of course on the Big Lie that its the same club), even when people like Michael Stewart, Ian McCall and perhaps Chic were all pointing put McInnes is no-one’s mug and would be leaving no stone unturned in making his decision if he was going to be offered the T’Rangers job.

Having had his fingers burned at Bristol and clearly not being happy about what was on offer at Sunderland, despite what I assume would have been really good money, he was obviously someone who wasn’t going to jump to anyone else’s tune. Let alone a club reliant on loans from a convicted tax dodger. 

A total lack of balance and no grasp of reality with regard to the situation Scottish Football finds itself in these days. 

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SMUGASDECEMBER 8, 2017 at 10:32

Well indeed.

It is interesting to note that there seems to be a total lack of comment in the SMSM that T’Rangers appear not to have stumped up the required cash to even speak to McInnes.

Both Milne and McInnes and the respective reps must have fully understood the conditions of the new contract they signed this past summer after McInnes turned down the Sunderland job.

McInnes knew exactly what he was getting himself into and the commitment of the Dons to him and vice versa.

If Skinto FC can’t stump up the required cash for opening up discussions, even by using any of the short term loan companies that advertise on the TV,  I can’t see why McInnes would take the financial and career risk of joining a club that has had six managers in five years. With Murty having two stints to really make it seven managerial appointments.

If he had resigned and paid his own compo, in 12-18 months on there is a good chance he would have been on the ropes and could have been squabbling for his cash like Warburton and Caixinha.

Michael Stewart is one of the few people who called it perefectly.

The fact that so many involved around the game as pundits, reporters and journos got it so wrong just points to the poor standard of commentary on our game and the lack of understanding (or is it a fear of acknowledging) of how bad things are at Ibrox.

Who Is Conning Whom?

On 30th October there were many reports like the one above indicating that T’Rangers were going to be doing their ‘due diligence’ in terms of identifying a new manger.

Given the club’s statement last night can we expect someone (perhaps Mark Allen)  to be fired for failing to notice that their number one target clearly has no backbone whatsoever and was so obviously not up to the task of managing such a massive club? 

Surely that should have been identified as a key factor when assessing the pros and cons of McInnes as a potential manager.

It surely isn’t the case that they just thought he would up sticks from Pittodrie  because he is supposedly a ‘Real Rangerz Man’?

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StevieBC 22nd December 2020 at 12:26

bect67 22nd December 2020 at 12:50

Agree, if people aren't happy with six goals in a cup final encounter that went to extra time and a nerve wracking penalty shoot out then what is it that floats their boat?

Thinking back, by the end of it I had forgotten there was no crowd in Hampden and was wholly absorbed unlike some games I've watched in these strange times.

OK so the quality was questionable and the result didn't go the way of my team but for me this is what sport should be about. If Celtic had taken it to 3-0 in the second half and strolled to the end of the game, no-one would have even remembered the game next week, let alone years to come. 

Quadruple trebles, Hamilton winning F1 at a canter, etc  are to be admired and respected but I'd say it isn't always 'entertaining'.

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Nice to see the thumbs back on the site.

18 thumbs down for a fairly innocuous post re the cup final and 1 person responding negatively to Cluster One's post re  the BBC's  half time tribute to a 36 year old footballer being struck down by MND!! 

I know people say the thumbs are not the be all and end all of the site, but come on guys, really?

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Very entertaining cup final today.

Penalties a bit of a lottery, as usual,  as both teams could claim they were worthy of the win.


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bordersdon 7th December 2020 at 20:23

paddy malarkey 7th December 2020 at 18:36

Would hope by the September rounds there may be a chance to get to games if the vaccine roll out goes well. However in terms of away games can't see any great attraction other than Austria, don't really fancy the rest. Would consider Denmark if I can get a bank loan for a pint!!

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Re The recent punishments for St Mirren and Kilmarnock, I have merely scanned the ruling for Killie and read a bit of commentary re St Mirren

It seems there are two parts to case. Killie were deemed to have not operated social distancing protocols on the bus to an away game and at a pre-game meal. To put is simply, they probably need to have two buses to keep all players and staff appropriately distanced and at the hotel where the meal was served,  the tables had too many people around them.

In St Mirren's case it seems the same applied but they were also guilty of letting players car share. There seems to be questions about not imparting covid related information to players and staff in an appropriate manner.

I may be wrong but I get the impression the cash fine is for braking the covid protocols and the loss of game and the 3-0 award to opposition is based on sporting disadvantage, given the result was that due to Covid issues the offending team were unable to put out a team and thus placed unfavourable conditions on their opposition that would otherwise not have occurred.

The linking of these two cases to earlier one with Celtic & Aberdeen seems to be 'apples and pears' in that both those clubs were willing and able to play their fixtures. The SPFL seem to also be saying that the Scot Gov cancelled the games but I am not sure that is strictly the case.

However, if a team were to fall foul of a bout of food poisoning as a result of their own catering operation and could not fulfill a fixture, is it not the case that precedent for teams being unavailable due to  'illness' within the squad is that the games are rescheduled.

Clubs would not be fined for breaking hygiene protocols and no points would be awarded to the disadvantaged opposition.

I can see why the SPFL have taken the stance they have, in these most difficult of times,  but not overly convinced they have the powers or precedent to take such action. Perhaps it is a gloves off approach as opposed to being more accommodating in 'normal times'.

While not so fussed about retrospective action on Celtic and Aberdeen, I am more concerned that the same SPFL seem willing to disrupt an already jam packed league fixture list and allow a certain team to needlessly go to a winter training camp (which presumably will be abroad), when there could be a higher probability of people straying from protocols and covid controls. 

If Celtic or any other team are unable to fulfill fixtures due to 'covid mistakes'  then 3-0 it will be, no?


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