Who Is Conning Whom?


ALLYJAMBODECEMBER 8, 2017 at 17:08  I’m sure that in his desperation to …

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ALLYJAMBODECEMBER 8, 2017 at 17:08 

I’m sure that in his desperation to earn his weekend’s share of the succulent KFC, Mr Rather Large Derek Johnston has inadvertently let the cat out of the bag. It’s fortunate for TRFC and Traynor that nobody pays much attention to that buffoon amongst buffoons!


Big DJ is a pundit on Radio Clyde’s Superscoreboard tonight. The first caller was an impassioned Rangers fan, pointing out that Rangers have no money to go after a Manager of any stature. ‘How do you know that?’, DJ asked, to which the caller replied ‘the accounts, the AGM, they have soft loans all over the place’. DJ then said ‘well let me tell you something. I spoke today to someone who knows, and the money is there for a manager, and the money is there for a manager to buy new players’. Neither the host, or the other pundit (Hugh Keevins), challenged him on this utter tripe. It would have been like shooting fish in a barrel taking him to task on that statement, but still they said nothing. 

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WOTTPIDECEMBER 7, 2017 at 19:23 
The usual suspects on Sportsound all just saying they were reporting on what the story was.Well the story has changed now. Will they now investigate and report exactly why T’Rangers didn’t get their man?Will they now have a good look under the Ibrox bonnet in the same way McInnes most likely has, come to the same conclusion and finally do some honest reporting ?


Before I make my point it was great to hear the coverage on Sportsound of the work Clyde FC Community Foundation are doing with underprivileged people, and those who at one time took the wrong path but are trying to get on the straight and narrow. 

Some of their statements re the McInnes situation were gobsmacking though. Forced to defend their six weeks blanket ‘he’s definitely going’ coverage, they actually said it was Dave King at the Rangers AGM who made them believe it was a done deal. Do they really believe that Dave King would say anything else at the AGM, whether it was true or not? King has surely not earned the right to be trusted in this way, but still it goes on, and will continue to go on. The only one who comes out with any credit is Michael Stewart, who had previously opined McInnes to Rangers was no given. Tom English gets a little credit for pointing out how embarrassing Rangers have become, but he was a member of the pack who hounded Aberdeen and McInnes for weeks. 

Sadly though, if Rangers were now to focus on say, Tommy Wright, St Johnstone and their fans would suffer in exactly the same way. 

Why don’t they just give it to Murty?

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Is Scotland the only country in the civilised world where a major football ‘club’ could sting the public purse for tens of millions yet still receive undying protection from the media? People associated with this ‘club’ are seemingly free to say, or do anything they want, and the media will still find a reason to say it’s okay. Their abominable behaviour towards Aberdeen, and the media defence of it, is yet another case in point.  I see one of the more ‘decent’ journalists, Graham Spiers pouring scorn on those who criticise the media behaviour over McInnes. Nice guy or not, Spiers is as much a part of the problem as the rest.

On the plus side it just shows you how much the state Rangers are in is hurting.  For the rest of us it shows that our clubs being run honestly within their means is a worthy attribute, even if the media can’t bring themselves to acknowledge that. 

Who Is Conning Whom?
BIG PINKDECEMBER 5, 2017 at 22:59 
Under terms of McInnes’s contract, I believe Aberdeen can’t refuse permission to speak to him IF the compensation amount is offered AND paid upfront. If talks between Rangers and McInnes are unsuccessful, the cash is returned.


According to today’s Daily Record Aberdeen ‘turned down a cheque for £1M’.  I’m guessing if £1M had genuinely been offered McInnes would be having talks with Rangers today. The Record goes on to exclusively reveal McInnes will resign to join Rangers.  Surely in that case Rangers must be guilty of illegally tapping a Manager under contract, and can also be ordered by the SFA to pay the amount of compensation due under the terms of the contract. 

This matter is being handled in an utterly appalling fashion by the Rangers board, and if we had a media who were willing to call them out for it rather than help facilitate the move they would not get away with it. If McInnes resigns Aberdeen can of course report Rangers to the SFA, but perhaps they want to avoid a points deduction and a heavy fine for bringing the game into disrepute!

On a serous note such matters have precedent.  Fergus McCann believed when Tommy Burns resigned from Kilmarnock in 1994 to join Celtic he was simply exercising his right to move job. The SFA fined Celtic £100k for tapping Burns and ordered them to pay Kilmarnock £200K. I’m willing to bet what McInnes is on at Aberdeen is way above what Burns earned at Kilmarnock in 1994.  Compensation aside I’m also willing to bet the SFA would not fine Rangers anything like £100k for tapping McInnes, if anything at all. 

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ALLYJAMBOJANUARY 2, 2018 at 11:07

Wow! I know we are not meant to put much store on the thumbs up or down, but two people have given thumbs down to this post! Who on earth could find fault with a post respecting the dead from the Ibrox disaster?


A bit puzzled at the thumbs down myself A.J, but there’s nowt queerer than folk as they say!

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On this day in 1971, the Ibrox disaster happened during a Rangers v Celtic game at Ibrox. 66 fans died in a crush. Some of us remember that day, some of us may even have been there, while some of us would not even be on this earth at the time. 

We are all football fans. Nobody should go to a football match and never return home. Rest in Peace.

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CLUSTER ONEJANUARY 1, 2018 at 19:27

“If they move out of Hampden, the SFA are in danger of leaving themselves hostages to Rangers and Celtic,” said Queen’s Park president Alan Hutchison.


I am a Celtic shareholder and if it was up to me (which it is not), I would tell the SFA here and now that Celtic Park is unavailable for any future fixture.  However I know that will not happen, but I doubt there is anything they could do to force Celtic to allow them use of the stadium.  

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ALLYJAMBOJANUARY 1, 2018 at 12:18

I see, too, that PMGB is issuing challenges, in two posts, to the Ibrox based boards to issue denials of what he is telling us.


I see it is alleged £800k is owed to suppliers. In my view unless any of it is due to a financial behemoth such as one of the big six energy suppliers, then we are unlikely to see any winding up requests heading towards court. It simply wouldn’t be worth the risk for any small supplier in Scotland to do that. Having said that I find it remarkable anyone is willing to extend them any sort of credit at all, or are they worried about the bully boys on that score as well?

I’m sure the SFA will want to satisfy themselves all is well though. I am also sure a herd of pink elephants takes off from Glasgow Airport at 20:00hrs tonight with the moon as their destination.

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Phil McG alleging a surveyor has recently visited Rangers training ground to attain a valuation, and that King has also approached a non-Uk Finance House. As Phil says this may well be King raising funds to make a share offer, but IMO it could be to raise working capital too. 

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