Whose assets are they anyway?

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zerotolerance1903 13th November 2015 at 8:36 am #Not sure that …

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zerotolerance1903 13th November 2015 at 8:36 am #Not sure that a story about someone in the SFA being conflicted on Rangers would blow anything out the water.   The authorities have been conflicted on all matters Rangers since day 1 of this farce. 

I agree ZT.
In fact I don’t think any revelation that comes out now, no matter how damning,  will significantly move Scottish Football on from this whole farrago.
The individuals and organisations involved are refusing to step outside the bunker and face the harsh realities of the real world.
The people we require to hold these individuals to account are either not willing or not able to do so; media, fans, club chairman/owners, leaders within the wider game.
It feels like the only thing that will significantly change this now is for a leader if real substance to step forward and speak sense, speak the truth. And not back down or bend the truth in the face of the inevitable media/PR/Dave King/SoS backlash.

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StevieBC 12th November 2015 at 4:49 pm #Statement o’clock. King: “…demotion…” =============== That’s the only quote required to confirm what a delusional d!ddy this guy really is. King should have done what he is best at : keeping silent in SA. However, with this latest nonsense, emotional, rambling statement…I think it shows that King/TRFC ‘doth protest too much’ ! It’s getting more interesting by the day. Extra popcorn on standby.


This makes it all the more frustrating that neither the Clubs, SFA or SPFL respond with a simple defense when these silly mistruths and threats are pumped out by TRFC.
There have been so many open goals from their PR department and time after time our strikers don’t have the cojones to just slam home the ball.
The simple response to this pap would be for a statement from the SPFL to simply say they have noted the tone and content of TRFC’s statement and are currently holding judgement on EBT matters while they consider the implications. But let us respond to the accusation of of illegal demotions by making it clear TRFC have never been a member club of the SPL and they joined the bottom of SFL as a new club and clearly were not demoted by any definition.

Whose assets are they anyway?

ernie 6th November 2015 at 1:37 pm #I’m glad the HMRC case has been won not only as it puts to bed all the faux victim talk from the old and new bears but also, in the wider world, is a defeat for the small minority of the very rich who manage to remain subsidised by the taxpayer, or as the politicians call us as a final insult as they shaft us, “hard working families”.  However, in Scottish fitba terms are we not creating a diversion? The timing of the legality of the EBT’s is neither here nor there in terms of fitba and it matters not how the money got there or even if tax was paid. Side contracts is the fitba issue.  The fact is that side contracts undeclared to the SFA made these players ineligible to play.  The question is how many ineligible players do you have to play before appropriate and normal action is taken?

ernie, I think I understand your point but I wonder about another aspect of this cheating –
Did the rules at the time (FFP and Club Licencing or any relevant equivalents) permit clubs to compete in our competitions if they did not pay their taxes? I’m sure the current rules do not allow for this.
We know now that Rangers did not pay the taxes as required by the law of the land.
We also know they want to some lengths to avoid paying those.
And to some lengths to keep the fact hidden from full view.
So were Rangers even elligable to be competing in those competitions back in the day?

Whose assets are they anyway?

valentinesclown 6th November 2015 at 9:44 am #What is the time limit for any appeal on the HMRC verdict (common sense type of verdict)?.  The reason being until then I will sit back and wait. Once that time period is over and the verdict is not challenged then I as a fan who was a season ticket holder during this whole debacle will then write to my club and ask them to contact the SFA concerning the trophies that were won by the EBT team. I do not want my team to claim any of these tainted trophies I just want them removed from the EBT team’s history. Common sense should prevail and they should be removed, we shall see.  All fans were effected by this one team and all fans may have to do what we done back in the day when we said no to keeping the Govan club at the top level and second top level of football.  This time we have the chance to all say yes remove the trophies.  Maybees aye maybees naw. I am a yes fan.

It would be fantastic if someone with a really good grasp of the current situation could draft a standard letter taking into account the new BTC result, implications of the DOS scheme, formulation of the LNS commission and anything else pertinent we need to raise with out clubs.
Then supporters of all clubs could be invited to personalise the letter/email and send to their clubs to register their anger with the lack of action being taken and lack of leadership in our game.
Does anyone else think this would be worthwhile?

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Been a bad day site-wise. I will now read from a script prepared by BP;
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Bill1903October 12, 2016 at 07:40
Oh and another thing. Its bad enough the Aberdeen v Morton semi being at 1215 KO on a Saturday(with train disruption that day) But to insist its played at Hampden with a probable crowd under 20 thousand is ridiculous. A full house at Easter Road or Tynecastle would have at least made the game look important. You have to wonder if those running the game have the slightest clue.


The old cynic in my wonders if the SFA are quite happy with this state of affairs as it will remind everyone just how important the “Old Firm” is and how irrelevant the rest of us are.
I have no doubt the small crowd will be ignorantly compared by certain Journos to the OF Crowd the next day with not the slightest recognition of the kick of times, travel problems and so on.
Quite a few AFC fans are simply fed up travelling to such a pitifully crap stadium as Hampden for these games anyway.
I’d love to see the SFA have the vision for a new national stadium in Stirling.
OR the balls to admit we don’t need a national stadium and take the games to other grounds around the country.

Accountability, Transparency, & Brave Sir Robin
The TRFC extension of JBs suspensions seems to indicate they are working to keep him off the payroll at least temporarily if not permanently.
All of which makes the very timely action from the SFA really quite questionable in my opinion.
Are we really supposed to believe that JB just happened to be the only player in Scotland placing bets and the SFA just happened to get their ducks in a row just as TRFC fell out with JB.
I find it just a bit too convenient.
I suspect TRFC reported their own player, which is up to them but what worries me is the SFA are able to act very quickly (once again) when the interests of certain teams are at stake.

.. and they wonder why nobody buys papers
Might a manager in dispute with his club, but not willing to be found in breach of contract, be obliged to take training and get on with his contractual duties within the club.
While activities like talking to the media and being part of the endless Level5 Spin may not be contractual?

The Offline Game
Can anyone explain the recent reports in the media that Rangers had withdraw IP rights from Rangers Retail?
Would prevent Rangers Retail / Sports Direct from selling Rangers branded merchandise? (as the reports seemed to me to suggest)
Or was that misleading and in fact it will only prevent them from manufacturing new products that use the IP?
Its just that I happened to be in a Sports Direct store this week and it was rammed with Rangers merchandise of all kinds, all very much bearing the old and new logos..
And yet I Martin Williams in the Herald reporting another victory on top of this previous victory over Mike Ashley. The way the reporting in the Herald has it I’m surprised Dave king hasn’t crushed Ashley out of all existence by now. 14

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