Whose assets are they anyway?

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I was asked recently why I keep going on about Rangers …

Comment on Whose assets are they anyway? by zerotolerance1903.

I was asked recently why I keep going on about Rangers and what it is that I want to happen in this saga, I came up with the following:
1. A clear out of all senior officials at the SFA and SPFL, they are all tainted.
2. A properly independent body appointed to review the footballing aspects of goings on at Rangers and Sevco.  The review needs to have control over its own boundaries and should not have restrictions imposed on it.  If the review extends into other clubs so be it.
3. Without prejudging the outcome of 2. if Rangers were deemed to have breached rules, particularly on player registration, due to their operation of the DOS and EBT schemes then  they should be stripped of the relevant titles (i.e. between 1998 and 2010). These titles should be void rather than awarded to the runner up – like the 1993 Highland League.
4. A formal recognition of what is factually the case – that due to liquidation the current Rangers FC are not the club founded in 1872 and incorporated in 1899, in the same way that the current Airdrioenians FC are not the club founded in 1878 and the current Gretna are not the one founded in 1946.
5. The various spivs and chancers that have run a Rangers entity from David Murray to present should be banned sine die from any involvement in football in Scotland.

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Whose assets are they anyway?
Looking back at the various reports from yesterday (I’ve been catching up all day today, having been under the weather yesterday) and it seem to me that yesterdays argument goes thus:

Wolffe: Green’s contract described him as the CEO of Rangers Football Club and Sevco didn’t acquire Rangers Football Club until 14 June therefore anything prior to that is not covered.

Brown: Green’s contract was with RIFC which IS (the current) Rangers Football Club.  It was previously called Sevco and acquired the assets and business of RFC Plc (which was the old Rangers FC) on 14 June.  Anything prior to that was in his capacity as Director of the same company.

Some have asked why Wolffe would advance such a difficult to defend argument, I suspect that in the circumstances of being instructed by his client to defend against Green’s action that it’s the only route open to him. However pursuing this line can only bring to a head even more explicitly that there are two Rangers Football Clubs, one incorporated in 1899 that is now in liquidation and one that formed in 2012.

IMHO RIFC shouldn’t be fighting Green at all, they should want him to win his criminal case.  If he doesn’t it will be extremely bad for TRFC/RIFC.  Why are they pursuing this action?
– is the cash position so bad that they can’t afford to pay his costs?
– has King let it become so personal that he’s not seeing sense? or
– does he not get the longer term implication?


Whose assets are they anyway?
From John James yesterday

Mr Brown then moves on to “the vexed question of the mythical concept of the club.” Lord Doherty states that the “articles of association show Rangers started as a club.”
Brown responded that this changed when Rangers incorporated in 1899. Brown continued: “Sevco Scotland did not buy the club they bought the business and assets of the club.There is a difference between the company and the business assets, but not between a club and a company. A club is an undertaking of it’s owners. As it has neither capacity of personality, no-one can be CEO of a club. The idea that someone can be CEO of an undertaking is just nonsense.”
Brown continued: “I realize that Rangers being the same club is a matter of life and death to some, but it wouldn’t be a proper legal case without the elephant in the room getting mentioned.The team are paid by Sevco, play at a ground owned by Sevco, trained by a manager who is employed by Sevco, fans buy tickets from Sevco. Rangers was a basket of assets that could be sold, but these were not indivisible.The players went one way and the ground another, where is the “club” then?


Whose assets are they anyway?
I liked Alan Patullo’s comments in his article in the Scotsman today.

http://www.scotsman.com/sport/football/teams/rangers/dave-king-threat-to-opponents-who-question-rangers-history-1-3946846

It is not clear the exact course of action King is threatening should debate continue on the matter. Given that the subject has preoccupied Scottish football in recent years, continued discussion seems inevitable.

AND

But King’s take on the matter has not been consistent. He has previously apologised for the tax scheme and was quoted in 2012 as saying: “I follow the logic of the argument that if we lose the tax case then we probably gained some competitive advantage”. However, he has now adopted a different stance.


Recent Comments by zerotolerance1903

Time to Ditch the Geek Show
Also regarding McInnes, bear in mind that he turned down an offer from Sunderland this summer.  He would have had a handsome salary and transfer money to spend, but just didn’t fancy it.  As I said, no daft.  


Time to Ditch the Geek Show
HOMUNCULUSOCTOBER 29, 2017 at 11:36 0 0 Rate This
Surely there wouldn’t be any deal other than
“If someone wants to employ our manager, who has recently signed a new contract then they will have to pay us £1m (or whatever) to break that contract. Then he is free to do what he wants”
Given that Aberdeen were second in the league and in both cups last year, they cannot in a hurry to get rid of him.
Or are they, maybe an Aberdeen fan could enlighten us.
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I’m sure it comes as no great surprise that McInnes is immensely popular with the Aberdeen support, and it’s about more than just getting the first team knocked into competitive shape but also other aspects of the Club, top to bottom. Overall the Club is in much better shape after a series of terrible managers and mismanagement at the Club for many years. 

Therefore, it will also come as no surprise that Milne will be hung drawn and quartered if he lets McInnes go without a fight, especially to “them”.  Obviously we can’t do anything if they throw the required level of compensation at it but anything less will be unacceptable. 

That said, McInnes is not daft. He’s onto a good thing at Aberdeen and he surely knows that Sevco is a basket case.  The treatment of Warburton and Caixinha cannot have gone unnoticed.  I’d be surprised if he jumps ship for anything less than a Premiership Club. 


Time for Scots Government to Take Bull by the Horns
What a shock, Ryan Jack failed to grab a hold of the game.  Sat too deep it seems,  well duh.  There’s a reason that very few tears were shed in the North East when he didn’t sign a new deal. 


Time for Scots Government to Take Bull by the Horns
Oh dear Pedro.  

Você está sendo demitido pela manhã.


Time for Scots Government to Take Bull by the Horns
@Jimbo – surely you mean the best Scottish export since whisky?  Rather than whiskey!!!


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