Why the Beast of Armageddon Failed to Show?

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I posted the other night that the judiciary were at …

Comment on Why the Beast of Armageddon Failed to Show? by justshatered.

I posted the other night that the judiciary were at odds with itself.
What is the chance now of the SPL hearing into dual contracts disagreeing with the statement in the FTTT ruling that the omission of payments was at odds with the footballing rules.
The final part of the process will be complete.
No tax to pay and no footballing rules broken.
Only in Scotland can you square that circle!
It sounds bizarre but it might just happen.

At least now ‘The Rangers’ fans can blame Craig Whyte for the club going bust.
He was the guy that took a perfectly healthy club and buried it under a tidal wave of debt and Murray was duped after all.
Bizarre again.

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Why the Beast of Armageddon Failed to Show?
The proposal of two leagues of 12 that then break into 3 leagues of 8. What are the second and third leagues of 8 playing for?
It can’t be a title as the league only lasts for 14 games.
Is it promotion to the league that you spent the first half of the season playing in?
What happens to the points totals gathered during the earlier part of the season for the middle group of 8?
They can’t be kept as the teams from SPL1 have been playing at a higher (supposedly) standard than the league below.
The third league of eight could keep the points won but the amount of meaningless games here is beyond the pale. And for what purpose. The fans are not going to pay to watch the worst 8 teams out of 24 play15 meaningless games.
This proposition is an absolute shambles that should be ridiculed rather than debated seriously.

In some ways you might even admire the honesty of the cowards putting forward these ideas if they at least came clean and told us all why it was being done. To get a morally and financialy bankrupt club back up the divisions.
At least be honest with the fans and then let us have a true debate.
The problem they have is that everything we were warned about over tthe summer has failed to materialise. The SPL is getting by, crowds are roughly the same, there is a tight league, and three or four teams fighting for top and second spot.
Have they never heard of the saying “IF IT’S NOT BROKE DON’T FIX IT.”
The SPL teams had better be prepared because if they thought they were facing a boycott last year then, judging by this proposition, they have not seen anything yet.


Why the Beast of Armageddon Failed to Show?
monsieurbunny says:
Monday, November 19, 2012 at 20:11

Lee Harvey Oswald.
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Topper. I supposed I asked for that.
If he had done it in Scotland we would still be waiting on a verdict.
Hell if he’d done it in Scotland he would have got a medal.

As for the moon landing……………………………………… could they not have taken some of our officials with them and left them there.


Why the Beast of Armageddon Failed to Show?
It is now over three weeks since, according to RTC, that the FTTT verdict was delivered to the relevant parties.
What is the record for a verdict being delivered and publication of a result?
I believe they are now haggling over the anonimity of witnesses. For goodness sake give them all anonimity and get the bloomin’ thing published!
The longer this farce drags on the worse the stench of corruption becomes.
We have a media incapable of asking a searching question.
A judicary at odds with itself.
A first minister of intervention.
A conflicted President of the national association.
A clown of a Chief Executive of the national association threatening member clubs.
A Chief Executive of the SPL who undermines and talks down his own product while in the middle of media negotiations.
An SPL investigation stalled due to an accident with no new date set.

It would be easier to find out who shot Kennedy.


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Time to Ditch the Geek Show
This may have been a question asked before so I apologize in advance.
When Rangers entered Administration the TAX man made a claim as far as I’m aware for all of the National Insurance and Income Tax that Whyte had collected but never forwarded.I still find tn difficult to comprehend how this isn’t illegal but there I am, a simple guy.

The Tax man also had the ongoing claim against the money paid to the EBT wheeze and submitted another claim for the Tax and National Insurance contribution that should have been paid on those payments.

Given that HMRC won their case, and the Liquidators will adjust the pennies in the pound accordingly, how can HMRC continue to after the recipients of the EBT payments?

While I have no sympathy for the individuals this seems, again to this simple guy, that HMRC will be getting paid twice; once through the Liquidators pennies in the pound and then billing the individuals.

As for Dave King’s counsel today……………………………….. well who would have thought that a guy who attempted to hide cars, planes, bank accounts, property, and wine from the South African authorities would turn round and claim to be penniless!!
Not me honest.

Another question regarding this: If Dave King sells up and walks away would this ruling apply to the rest of the concert party?
If it does not then this looks like a great sting by the rest of the concert party to have King as the fall guy. Remember there was the rumor that King borrowed the money from someone to buy the shares. It might have even been from someone who will gain if King goes.


The Vice Closes
The SFA have attempted a deal tonight.
To buy off Celtic and the rest of Scottish football with another weak, ineffectual, in-house, whitewash of an investigation into why there in-house, dyed in the wool, Real and pretendy Rangers men passed RFC as fit for a UEFA licence in 2011.
They have done this in an attempt to prevent a full out enquiry into their handling of the Administration, Liquidation, and unlikely resurrection of RFC to ‘The Rangers’.
Unfortunately for them far too much is now out in the public domain.
Anybody who wishes to look at the evidence knows what a craven, cowardly, corrupt, set of so called administrators we have a Hampden. They knew well before RFC went into Administration that it was coming.
The real problem they have is, like the Watergate affair, the original crime was not the thing that eventually brought down the house of cards.
It was the attempted cover up that did that.
The SFA may attempt to purge their in-house email servers but most are backed up elsewhere. The paper trail will most likely lead to some very uncomfortable places and people.
Paperwork, that the SFA are so pernickety about at various times but incredibly lax at others will be their undoing in the end.
Of course as much as the media will attempt to play this as an ‘Old Firm’ issue what the SFA have done tonight is actually ignore the wishes of the SPFL board. That will also be their undoing. For all they talk about the SFA being the clubs tonight they have told everyone that the SFA is a bunch of despots, up to their necks in scandal, desperately attempting to cover their backs.


On Grounds for Judicial Review
Far be it from me to question tactics with regards to the old club/new club debate but for a long time I’ve thought the best way forward is a reverse tactic.

Don’t ask the SPFL, and their legal stooge, as to why they are the same club: accept it.

Now stay with me on this one, yes accept it.

Ask them to confirm the SPL was made up of football clubs, prior to the amalgamation of the SFL and SPL, adhering to rules created by that league.

Ask them then to justify, from a sporting integrity angle, why the club that finished second in the league in season 2011/2012 ended up in the bottom tier of Scottish football?

Ask them why that same clubs prize money was withheld?

Doncaster has been quite forthright stating that the SFL’s record keeping was not as it should have been but let us see how the SPL’s stand up to scrutiny.

Under what rule/rules of the SPL was a vote required to keep a club in the league?

This is unprecedented that a club finishing second in the top league, anywhere in the world, is treated in such a manner.

Why was a vote even required?

Indeed, what was their justification for such a vote?

Why was that club forced to start at the very earliest round of the Scottish Cup as the SPL should have put them forward to be exempt from those earlier rounds?

Who failed in their responsibility to that club and what sanctions have been taken against that individual?

Was the SFA, as the country’s governing body, not concerned that one of their member clubs was being so harshly treated by its fellow members?

Was there any correspondence between the then SPL and SFA regarding this matter?

I could go on but I think you get the drift.

We as supporters cannot get them to admit that ‘The Rangers’ is a new club because they will just say that is their adjudication however what we can ask, and indeed are entitled to ask, is what were the rules that allowed such an unjust thing to happen to a member club when, according to them, they had committed no crime?

If what they did is not in their rule book, then they broke their own rules and someone should be held accountable for such a vindictive assault on a member club.


Time for Scots Government to Take Bull by the Horns
Haven’t posted for a long time but I was interested to read King’s statement regarding the funding of RFC and that the money would have been found from somewhere anyway.

That, in my mind, actually makes matters worse!

So, if you believe his statement, they deliberately choose not to play by the same rules as everyone else. According to King they had the money but decided to go down the route they did.

However, to go down this route they of course had to confirm to the various players in writing that they would definitely receive the money. This is what gave the player the assurance to sign the contract but RFC did not include this letter with the contract to go to the league and the SFA because in doing so would have made it contractual and therefore liable for tax.

That is the crux of the matter. It is the deliberate concealment of these letters which destroys the myth that this was simply an administrative error because if these letters had been included with the contract and other documentation then tax would have been payable.

On to David Murray and his statement. He had legal advice that everything was above board. Well advice is, by the very nature of the word advisory. It is not a guarantee. It is not definitive. It has as much authority as the next guys ‘advice’ which may be the complete opposite.

Then we have dear old Artur Numan. We won on the park fair and square was his cry. Well Artur you employed the agent who got you the deal and a side letter. As far as I know you signed the contract of your own free will. You did not sign it under duress so you, along with all of the other players, have to accept the responsibility for your actions. You were the guy who seemed to come from a footballing culture, at that time, where tax free wages were the norm.

Finally it has been reported recently that when offered a contract extension where Artur would be paid £20K a week paying tax instead of the £40k a week tax free he decided that this was not enough and retired. That won’t earn him a lot of fans anywhere considering most of them won’t earn in a year what he would have earned in a fortnight paying the same tax as everyone else.


.. and they wonder why nobody buys papers
The good news just keeps flowing down Govan way.
Niko Kranjcar seems like a good signing on the face of things. Well he is a name at least.
A bit like Joey Barton who will shout from the roof tops and our excuse for a media will duly print it.
However at the end of the day both of these guys are the wrong side of 30 and will certainly be unused to the physicality of the Scottish game. I would be surprised if either of these guys last ninety minutes regularly. They will have touches of class from time to time however they will not have the time on the ball they are used to.
I think it is also now safe to say that whatever has been saved by players leaving has now been swallowed up, and then some, by the recent signings.
There is no sell on value on any of these players.
As I see it this is the last gamble by a desperate board!
If these players hit the ground running, and they can go top and stay there until Christmas, then the three bears will be forced to anti up yet again in an attempt to get them through the season and access European money.
If this gamble fails and the team struggles in the top league then I think it is game over. This house of cards will collapse quicker than the previous entity.
The clock is ticking towards season start but if there are a series of injuries to the squad, injuries they did not suffer last year, then that will also impact on performance.
Meanwhile there will be no replica strips for the faithful to buy due to the fall out between King and Rangers Retail. This will hit them hard financially with no income at all as opposed to the pittance they were getting before.
In fact this will actually cost them more as they will have to buy unsold items at shop floor price but still, due to the exclusivity clause, be unable to sell it themselves. So they will have to buy the unsold units but still be unable to sell them themselves.
Once again we are watching high stakes, well for Scottish football, gambling.
This is a club continually posting losses very much like its predecessor.
It isn’t a business but a charity!
Everyone connected with it, that has money, is supposed to just shovel it down the money pit with no thanks because “it’s the Rangers way you know”!!


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