Why the Beast of Armageddon Failed to Show?

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Been trying to get my head around the reaction from …

Comment on Why the Beast of Armageddon Failed to Show? by borussiabeefburg.

Been trying to get my head around the reaction from various groups concerning the FTT decision.

Pre Tuesday: Old Company no connection to New Club (and New Company), regarding investigation into EBT use.

Post Tuesday: Old Company/New Club/New Company all winners!

Have I got that about right?

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Why the Beast of Armageddon Failed to Show?
Had a wee glance at the Daily Record’s attempts today at reporting, well, just at ‘reporting’. Remember, this type of organ is the source of information/opinion for a large if dwindling band of football supporters. Four different reporters, Jackson, Gannon, Berry and McLeod, make an effort to instruct their readers.

Keith Jackson: Murray said: “What we are dealing with here is the destruction of a 140-year-old Scottish institution.”

Michael Gannon: Dave Smith said “The club has been destroyed.”

Gavin Berry has ex striker Michael Mols stating “if there is any liability now, it’s not mine,” and “I was a footballer, not a financial expert, so I left it in the hands of those who knew the rules,” and “hopefully after this first victory the case can be dropped over the stripping of titles.”

Keith McLeod: “By that stage, Rangers could be back in the SPL if they win successive promotions.
But the tax wrangle which doomed oldco Rangers would still be dragging on.”

So, if I’m clear on this, Rangers of old were ‘destroyed’, ‘doomed’ and suffered ‘destruction’, while a player that club couldn’t really afford is telling us the spl must abandon any probe into improper registration, even although he has no expertise in the way he was registered.

Meanwhile, The Sun has wheeled out Goram again. Funny how all these guys who claimed not to be financially clued up suddenly have something to say about this financial news issued this week.

Here’s my financial input: over a number of years I’ve been paying money to watch football games which weren’t played by the sporting rules, both in a true sense and relating to those set down by the SFA. I’ve lost quite a bit of money watching unfair competition.

And I have to pay tax.


Why the Beast of Armageddon Failed to Show?
layman00 says:
Wednesday, November 21, 2012 at 09:35
Allegiances aside, any tax paying person has got to question the moral reasons for the EBT schemes employed by RFC.

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I think people who go to Scottish football matches will also question the sporting reasons for such schemes being employed by the former Rangers.

As for Green’s statement today, it’s just another rabble rouser for his troops.


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Not been on here for a while, but some sterling work being undertaken.

When I’ve nothing to say, I’ll say nothing, but feel I should comment on ‘Biscuits’ Preston and the wee bit of criticism he’s had here.

He was playing a trick, having a joke, when he made out Warburton would have succeeded in the Perth tie. It was his personal parody of fellow commentators, one in particular.


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theoldcourse says:

April 29, 2015 at 1:00 pm
I was driving past the ancient city of Stirling in the heart of our cradle of independence last night, having had an interesting day at Gleneagles. Anyway, I digress; my young companion turned the radio to a station which I was informed was Clyde 1 and it had a “good football phone-in”. I thought, what the hell, lets see what its like (not very good). They had Mark Burchill on and one caller asked about Livi taking the SFA to court to have the 5 points they were deducted returned to them in light of “the director having won their case”. I must admit I was unaware of any court proceedings involving Livi or any director of the club. Mr Burchill said words to the effect that he was aware of talk on the subject but would concentrate on winning at the weekend. My question to the super sleuths on this forum is this; is there any case in the works that might result in Livi being given a lifeline.

Livingston were deducted five points for defaulting on tax payments in season 2010-11. I think another club too were defaulting on tax payments around about that time, but don’t think the newish SPFL chief executive Neil Doncaster has had much to say about that.

This is what Doncaster is quoted as saying regarding Livingston: “The tax default and reporting rules are an integral part of maintaining a fair league competition.”
The caller might have been confused.


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Allyjambo says:
April 16, 2015 at 6:02 pm
So, regardless of the joke fine, what sanctions have been put in place should Ashley continue to be involved in any way with TRFC outwith the rules of the SFA? Or do the SFA consider that the price has been paid by TRFC to allow Ashley (or anyone else who already owns another club) to be involved in the running of the club?

Livingston will have paid their £5000, but they were also given until 10th April for Neil Rankine to dispose of his share of Livingston and East Fife (which he denies having).
It’s noted that the SFA has not instructed Mike Ashley to dispose of any shareholding in the Ibrox club or Newcastle for that matter.


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incredibleadamspark says:
April 2, 2015 at 8:19 am
Jim Spence reporting that Dundee Utd have paid out 25% of £6.3 in recent transfer fees to unnamed parties as commission fees. Interesting turn of events and fans groups are asking questions. Do our resident Arabs have any more info about this?
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/32157589

There will be people better positioned than me to comment, but the BBC article is misleading in that 25% of £6.3 million is almost £1.6 million, while the fans’ groups are wondering about a sum under one third of that, a still not unsubstantial half a million pounds.

I assume payments to players, agents or other clubs (such as Queens Park) would explain the other £1 million.

What the affair suggests to me is that, as ever, it is difficult for clubs with limited amounts of fans coming through the gates to compete for success in Scotland, and also that Stephen Thompson, who I understand has not always been held in high esteem by sections of Dundee United’s support, has lost the confidence of the biggest supporters’ groups.


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easyJambo says:
April 1, 2015 at 11:40 am
Livingston / Neil Rankine ruling published.
http://www.scottishfa.co.uk/scottish_fa_news.cfm?page=2566&newsCategoryID=1&newsID=14557
£5,000 fine and a registration ban. May be indicative of what sanctions will be placed on Rangers when their case comes up on 16th April.

I wouldn’t take that as a measure, as, and please correct me if I’m wrong, Livingston were deducted five points and fined £10,000 by the SPFL for failure to pay tax on player bonuses during the 2010/11 (Scottish Football League) season. The club themselves volunteered this information to the SPFL, which contrasts with, say, shredding evidence.

The SPFL is, of course, just 21 months old.

While the five points deduction and fine were not SFA sanctions, I’m still trying to discover if the old Ibrox club ever lost any points for failure to pay their debts to the government, before, during and after season 2010/11.

Don’t think they did………….


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