Why We Need to Change

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Ianagain says: July 16, 2015 at 8:46 pm “BTW Brilliant Dons.” +++++++++++++++++++ I …

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ianagain says:
July 16, 2015 at 8:46 pm

“BTW Brilliant Dons.”

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I don’t know about brilliant. Aberdeen only had one shot on goal in the first half and scored from it. They had 30-odd percent of the possession and Rijeka have looked the better side. The 2nd Aberdeen goal was half a yard offside and the replay showed the linesman had a perfect sight of it. It was right on the 18yd line so no way he should have missed it!

Football is a funny old game. Great news Aberdeen are getting a result which helps Scottish football and would love to see them get to the group stages. Could easily have gone the other way tonight.

As I write this final paragraph Aberdeen have scored a 3rd, and it was a cracker! It is a funny old game for sure!

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Why We Need to Change
As occasional contributor, and daily lurker, I have become very disappointed in this site. Before engaging with Football Fan, ask yourself, what is his purpose? Pointless, spiraling arguments with no purpose beyond distraction. He is welcome to do so, of course, but joining in simply adds your weight to the distraction. If starved of attention he will go away.

This has happened before. I’m asking people to stay on point and do not allow yourself to be distracted. We live in interesting times.


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Precisely!  Why the differences?  There is no consistency in which clubs are rejected.  Assuming both are real, what are the implications?


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http://www.scottishfa.co.uk/resources/documents/ClubLicensing/2017/230317CL%20current%20status.pdf

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TRISIDIUMMAY 21, 2016 at 22:54
EDIT/UPDATE:The video clip which shows the moron pushing the Rangers goalkeeper is outrageous. I can only imagine how scared that young man must have been, isolated as he was at that moment. I was scared for him just watching it and I have to say that I can understand Rangers’ immediate reaction on the basis of that incident alone. I hope they get hold of that arse.
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100% agree.  A Hibs supporting family member suggested he probably gets worse defending a corner, but that completely misses the point.  Being surrounded by professional footballers, in a controlled environment, is nothing like being surrounded by over-zealous football fans.  You have no idea what is going to happen next.  I thought the big chap did very well to keep his cool.  I hope the idiot involved is found and prosecuted.  It is common assault, no excuses.


The Offline Game
RYANGOSLINGMAY 21, 2016 at 17:58

Beatipacificiscotia,
Hibs fans run on the pitch and attack Rangers players and staff and it is excusable, yet Rangers fans are the bad boys for singing a song? Don’t get me wrong, me and my mates were pretty horrified to see the reaction of the Rangers fans, but get a grip of yourself, you can’t just say Hibs fans were fine but Rangers were the baddies. Attacking the players and staff is not on, and according to the media reports I’ve read thus far Rangers fans only responded when the Hibs fans ran to the Rangers end.
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I think every sane person is on the same page as this, but whataboutery is in overdrive at the moment.  I don’t know if has been mentioned, the very corner that the Hibs players celebrated the winning goal with fans is where the pitch invasion started.  This, for me, is where it all began.  There are rules about leaving the field of play to celebrate, and you can now see why.  All that said, you can’t blame the players either for how they acted in the moment.  Stewards should have stopped players approaching and celebrating with fans.  Emotions were at boiling point and there were only moments between the final goal and full time.  Hindsight is a wonderful thing, but maybe police should have got some extra cover down to that corner immediately after the goal and celebrations.  There was 2 full minutes for someone to make a decision and deploy the extra cover.

I want to mention one very important element in this story.  The goading of Hibs players and fans has been well documented – “Hibs’d it”.  This originated on Rangers forums and has been perpetuated in the media.  The Hibs players and fans went from disaster to triumph and that single moment of joy overcame them.  I’m a Celtic fan, but from a Hibs family so I know what it means to them.  My old Dad and nephews are all East Road season ticket holders.  They were at the game (not on the pitch, I may add).  Rangers fans, aided by the media, created and perpetuated such a disrespectful term.  Hibs players responded in the best possible way.  Sadly, Hibs fans didn’t.  The fighting that came next is not excusable in any way – a very small number of fans from each side should be ashamed of themselves.  That said, to approach the Rangers fans for a GIRUY is maybe understandable (but not excusable) in the face of weeks of very public goading.  

For the avoidance of doubt, most Hibs fans stayed where they should have in the stands.  I thought the rendition of “Sunshine on Leith” was a beautiful and proud moment.  Most Rangers fans left the stadium quietly at the end of the match.  Both sets of fans had an element that let their club down.  Both sets of fans were let down by the security measures put in place by the SFA and Police Scotland.

To answer your point, Ryan, Hibs fans in no way encouraged Rangers fans to sing songs about wading in the blood of Catholics.  Pitch invasions and pyrotechnics can happen anywhere (and frequently do).  The disgusting bigotry displayed by Rangers fans is something that, sadly, will likely be overlooked by authorities in this mess.

“Sunshine on Leith” on one side and “Billy Boys” on the other, says it all for me.


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Great win for Hibs, deserved winners of the game.  Interesting stat that Stokes had more attempts on goal than the entire Rangers team.  Says it all.

The match day was spoiled by two things – Hibs fans invading the pitch, promptly followed by the expected rendition of Billy Boys from the Rangers fans.  You can almost excuse the Hibs fans, so much disappointment then finally triumph.  The moment obviously got the better of them.  What can you say about Rangers fans?


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