Why We Need to Change


Tayred @ 9.17 that we draw massive confidence from this …

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Tayred @ 9.17

that we draw massive confidence from this and kick on to bigger and better things.

Are you in the Petrofac then?

And to be clear that’s another dig at the media, not RFC*

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Oh thank goodness TR. I thought it was just me!

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But isn’t that the nub Homunculus?

Presumably you wouldn’t have to buy better players if the standard stays the same (essentially the position a financially safe Celtic finds itself in just now)? You would only have to buy better players if your standard has stalled and a competitor’s has improved. Thus your standard and the standard of at least one other competitor has improved.

But then does it then simply help create a two tier league where (for sake of argument) Aberdeen, Dundee, Hearts, Inverness etc get slightly better at the expense of the occasional successes now rendered impossible of (again for arguments sake) Ross Co, Utd, Hibs and Kilmarnock. I would argue that this is what has happened in Engerland, for better or worse, obviously then drastically distorted by the tv rights .

The more I think of it the more it smacks of the 3 * 6 phenomenon that called itself a proposed restructure and was chucked out last year. I obviously retain my own thoughts on that one. Suffice to say I didn’t feel they paid much attention to the top six (or bottom six for that matter).


Its a waste of time when the liquidate and repeat option remains a viable alternative, obviously!

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Joking apart (who said anyone was joking!) and with apologies BP for reducing it to club level which I see Tayred is keen to keep his point away from which I understand , do the celtic contingent think there would be room for any further distribution – and lets be blunt here I’m talking about siphoning off some of the European revenue that qualification gets the bigger club?

From my bystander position Celtic have sensibly not gone ‘CL or bust’ a la the Arsenals of this world but instead seem to have taken the safe middle ground of reinvesting only a portion of the proceeds apparently into players with potential who then bear their own fruit such as with Van Dyke(sp?). So, a genuinely serious question – do you think there would be any slack for some kind of further distribution, with a view to improving competition generally, and thus their own preparation for the money earning trophies or do you feel it would be more a case of simply being unfairly and more importantly unsustainably handicapped?

Just wondering.

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reasonablechap 5th November 2020 at 08:24

I think that certainly in recent years, it would be much more accurate for it to read…

"When you pull on that jersey you are not just playing for a football club, you're playing for a PLC"

Sorry, me no understandy…

I thought the separation was an accepted given now no…?

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You have to remember Menace the “being out” and the positive test are not necessarily related.  As I understand it, Players 1-4 can be out and player 5, who is within just one of 1-4’s training bubble can test positive for the fan to struggle. 

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Agreed wottpi.  Aberdeen in a way actually called their bluff and said ok we’ll play.  The approach now seems to be that we’ll all simply avoid there being a repeat rather than address what I personally think is inevitable at some point.

and FWIW I still wouldn’t agree with giving “them upstairs“ executive powers to do what they deem fair.  They negated that possibility a long time ago.

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The issue would have been (I think) how does the SPFL order a game to be forfeit if “the offending side” is standing there ready to play? 

What will happen if for instance in the hypothetical match City versus Utd, 4 of City’s players and families are pictured in Dobbies having lunch in close proximity and the pictures hit the Rags websites?  Or, as is perfectly possible, 2 from each side?

i assume that’s the purpose of tomorrow’s zoom call with managers and captains.

Similarly I’m not sure on what grounds the SG could act.  They can order the postponement, as they did, not the forfeit.

and of course, if City happen to be top 5 premiership and Utd are part time, is it even fair to apply the play or forfeit rule?

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Absolutely Homunculus, particularly the last line. Which is what I suspect will make it completely unworkable.

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