Why We Need to Change

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AmFearLiathMòr says: Member: (69 comments) July 16, 2015 at 5:42 pm neepheid …

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AmFearLiathMòr says:
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July 16, 2015 at 5:42 pm
neepheid says:
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July 16, 2015 at 1:50 pm
Don’t get me started on the whole doing down of lower league teams. I must admit to having a vested interest, given that I’m a follower of the Bully Wee, so I’d probably rage against anyone that denigrated the ‘diddies’.

That Gannon piece actually smacks of a very similar article that I always hark back to – the one in the Sunday Mail during the summer of 2012, where Craig Burley wrote (or at least, put his name to) a column that made myself, and I’m sure anyone that read it, very, very angry indeed.

The whole premise was ‘Who the hell do these diddy clubs think they are, having the temerity to decide the fate of the mighty Rangers?’. It was written in the run up to the vote by the SFL clubs to allow Rangers a place in the lowest division, and decreed that Rangers were Scottish football, so to let these comparative amateurs, who only paid part-time wages, decide on their fate was an insult. In fact not only that, these clubs, because they weren’t fit to be on the same pitch as Rangers, should have stood aside and let them walk all the way into the top division.

What he failed to mention was that these ‘diddies’ played a massively important role in their local communities, had very little debt, and all cut their cloth according to their material. I’m sure they could have overspent to the tune of multi-millions, bankrupting not only themselves, but other businesses unfortunate enough to be creditors, in the pursuit of glory. They chose not to. They chose to be responsible, to pay players within their means, and to ensure that the communities in which they are rooted would have a team for decades to come…… and for this, Burley decreed that they weren’t worth the dirt on Rangers’ boots.

Now when I see or hear Burley on summariser duties, I don’t think ‘There’s the guy that scored the equaliser against Norway and sparked the greatest burst of joy I’ve ever witnessed in a large group of people’, I think ‘There’s that f****** w*****’.

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Well said.

The smaller clubs, whether semi pro, amateur or just the more modest professional clubs do no harm to anyone else in the game and surely can only add value as long as they live within their means and within the rules of the game.

By living within their means they all find their own level so the notion they somehow handicap professional clubs is really a load of tosh. This is IMO motivated by an agenda to promote the perceived established order and denigrate everyone else to do so.

What I don’t understand is why some of these clubs do not work together to make their case publicly and stand up for themselves. Perhaps it is too much to ask but I’d love to see them find a way to make sure their voice is heard (form private club and hire their own PR??) and some real world honesty is spoken for once instead of the fairy land nonsense the press usually print about Scottish Football.

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motor red says:
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August 21, 2015 at 11:33 am

dear matty what are you on about? ….

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Fair enough motor, I think I may have confused sentiments of a few different posters.

Apologies I had the wrong end of the stick.


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Homunculus says:
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August 21, 2015 at 10:17 am

I have said this before, and derided for it. I will say it again, and no doubt be derided for it again.

Celtic are bigger in financial terms than other Scottish football clubs because more people go to Celtic games, more people buy season tickets and more people buy official club merchandise. This has the knock on effect of getting better sponsorship deals etc.

If other clubs want to get closer in financial terms then the first place they should look at is themselves…….

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From what I can see its not unusual for fans of big clubs to have a sort of self congratulatory attitude as if its their personal loyalty and commitment that earns the success on the field. Nonsense really.

The problem with this is that the bigger clubs are richer because they have more fans but they also have more fans because they are richer (and therefore win more trophies, sign higher profile players and so on).

So you say your club is successful because so many fans “invest” (lol) in the club. I say so many fans invest in the club because it is successful.

Its a sort of chick and egg situation.

To suggest its simply the fault or a problem for all the other teams misses the point that the playing field is not level and tilts too much in favour of already big clubs and so ensures they only get bigger.

While the rest are slowly crushed into non existence.

What will the big teams do when they play in leagues where all their competitors are part time clubs watched by 1000 fans?

Why should fans of smaller clubs keeping spending their money on their clubs when its such a drop in the ocean compared to the TV money, Euro prize money and so on? Its wasted and only the hard core fans remain following these clubs now.


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Cluster One says:
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August 21, 2015 at 7:25 am

motor red says:
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August 21, 2015 at 6:55 am…………explode.
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They never knock it back,the £250,000

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A comment was quite rightly removed by mods yesterday because it was little more than childish trolling.

IMO your baiting falls into exactly the same category and should simply be removed.

PS – you used the same bait in your rather snide comments yesterday, time for fresh bait, surely this is getting a bit whiffy?


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Bill1903October 12, 2016 at 07:40
Oh and another thing. Its bad enough the Aberdeen v Morton semi being at 1215 KO on a Saturday(with train disruption that day) But to insist its played at Hampden with a probable crowd under 20 thousand is ridiculous. A full house at Easter Road or Tynecastle would have at least made the game look important. You have to wonder if those running the game have the slightest clue.

 

The old cynic in my wonders if the SFA are quite happy with this state of affairs as it will remind everyone just how important the “Old Firm” is and how irrelevant the rest of us are.
I have no doubt the small crowd will be ignorantly compared by certain Journos to the OF Crowd the next day with not the slightest recognition of the kick of times, travel problems and so on.
Quite a few AFC fans are simply fed up travelling to such a pitifully crap stadium as Hampden for these games anyway.
I’d love to see the SFA have the vision for a new national stadium in Stirling.
OR the balls to admit we don’t need a national stadium and take the games to other grounds around the country.


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The TRFC extension of JBs suspensions seems to indicate they are working to keep him off the payroll at least temporarily if not permanently.
All of which makes the very timely action from the SFA really quite questionable in my opinion.
Are we really supposed to believe that JB just happened to be the only player in Scotland placing bets and the SFA just happened to get their ducks in a row just as TRFC fell out with JB.
I find it just a bit too convenient.
I suspect TRFC reported their own player, which is up to them but what worries me is the SFA are able to act very quickly (once again) when the interests of certain teams are at stake.


.. and they wonder why nobody buys papers
Might a manager in dispute with his club, but not willing to be found in breach of contract, be obliged to take training and get on with his contractual duties within the club.
While activities like talking to the media and being part of the endless Level5 Spin may not be contractual?


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Can anyone explain the recent reports in the media that Rangers had withdraw IP rights from Rangers Retail?
Would prevent Rangers Retail / Sports Direct from selling Rangers branded merchandise? (as the reports seemed to me to suggest)
Or was that misleading and in fact it will only prevent them from manufacturing new products that use the IP?
Its just that I happened to be in a Sports Direct store this week and it was rammed with Rangers merchandise of all kinds, all very much bearing the old and new logos..
And yet I Martin Williams in the Herald reporting another victory on top of this previous victory over Mike Ashley. The way the reporting in the Herald has it I’m surprised Dave king hasn’t crushed Ashley out of all existence by now. 14


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