Why We Need to Change

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Comment on Why We Need to Change by Allyjambo.

Musing on a Friday night;

For a short period at the end of last season, the three Championship qualifiers, including the Ibrox club, were listed as playing in the Premiership Play-offs. They all returned after that short sojourn to the Championship.

Does that mean, at last, that TRFC are back where they belong? Or is it ‘in their rightful place’?

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You know the talk of a new auditor; King cleared as fit and proper (again) this time by ISDX; another share floatation… is/was it all genuine? I mean, I can only think of reading about the King clearance and share floatation on PMGB’s blog, and can’t remember where I read of the ‘new auditor’, with no ‘official’ announcements or anything attributable to the board on any of the stories. Yet many people seem to have accepted it all with the usual caveats and the discussions have centred round the viability of raising £20m and would it be enough? At the same time, it could be seen as encouraging news for people as yet undecided on the wisdom of buying a season ticket – in lieu of any un-conflicted RRMs.

Has there been anything that could be described as an official statement from RIFC/TRFC, on any of the three developments? Or is it all just rumour, carefully placed in such a way that it creates a feel-good factor without leaving the board with yet more egg on their face should it all, or some of it, end up as a non-event?

Obviously PMGB isn’t involved in any way, other than possibly as the conduit to the wider audience of ‘good news’ rumours put out in the City where such rumours usually find ears to pass them on to journalists.

King, and or his people, wouldn’t be the first at Ibrox to use similar tactics, though I suspect King has used them to greater effect than most in his normal business deals and is possibly (though perhaps I am misjudging him) the one who knows how to best use the rumour mill to create a ‘company on the up’ aura to lure potential investors (or, in this case, co-investors).

None of the ‘rumours’, if that’s what they are, gave anything out as a ‘done deal’, just hints that something positive was happening. We know King is happy to give out the message that problems are well on their way to be being sorted, only for that to be seen as patently untrue once deadlines are passed.

Phil is now, with some justification, throwing cold water on the auditor story, and add to that the fact that it is now quite a few days since the ‘RIFC have/nearly have an auditor’ story broke, so, it would surely be reasonable to expect that when such stories break that they are very close to a conclusion, and that on conclusion they would be officially announced with great pleasure. Similarly, if there was any depth to the stories of King’s ‘fit and proper to fleece’ status and of the share floatation, something more concrete would now be in the public domain.

Perhaps there has been something more official from club sources that I have missed, and my apologies if that is the case to all and sundry, but I am always suspicious of good news being put about when it’s just left to grow wings without any confirmation, especially if no one (from the board) has put their name to it.


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John Clark says:
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August 18, 2015 at 10:18 am

I am in agreement with both you and wottpi, though I think you would probably both agree with each other, in that I expect wottpi would seek to see Stewart’s ‘opinion’ debunked for the cop-out it is.

One of the problems our blog will encounter in trying to encourage high profile guests is that people who want to be interviewed by the media do so for a reason, usually having a book/record/movie to sell, or a career to advance, or, occassionally, a point of view or belief to put across. The latter are probably the only category who would be prepared to take part in a SFM debate or interview, and very few, if any, who hold the opposite view to, say, John Clark or myself, for they know it would be challenged, unrelentingly, and would only stand up if it is, indeed, valid.

Nobody with a weak argument allows themselves to be grilled by an agressive interviewer, such as Paxman, unless they have no choice. In Paxman’s case, ‘no choice’ equated to him inviting his ‘victim’ onto his show, as refusal to appear would be seen as cowardly and weak. We don’t have that luxury.

I’d suggest that, to reach the wider audience we seek, we would first have to get a reputation for good interviews and debates with football people with good stories to tell, or contovercial points to make, that don’t come across as aimed against any one club.

Alternatively, in a totally make or break kind of way, go for the extreme controverciality (is that actually a word?), that no one would want to miss (though a few radios might fly through a good few windows), of an interview with a certain Irish blogger.

In truth, my sympathies are with those who have the job of finding the guests to fulfil the ambitions of the blog, it’s not going to be easy.


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upthehoops says:
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August 18, 2015 at 7:17 am

And that from a man with political ambitions!

Oh wait, he’d fit in perfectly. Scotland is desperate for politicians who will turn a blind eye for the sake of a few votes.

‘Move along now, nothing to see here,’ the perfect answer for anyone seeking to climb the ladder at either Westminster or Holyrood.

Where are the politicians, or journalists, seeking to right wrongs?


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Les Says It is Time to Ask The Audience?
StevieBC 8th May 2020 at 12:54

I think your point was addressed in page 2 of the SPFL letter, Stevie, (sorry, can't copy and paste it) in the paragraph that begins, 'Several of us have also been asked…' where it ends by saying that they can't comment until after the EGM, which I think would naturally be the case.

Can I say that the SPFL board do not seem to have missed TRFC, and in particular Stewart Robertson, and hit the wall. It is also clear from the paragraph I refer to that some of the clubs, at least, share our view that TRFC's actions are/were 'bringing the game into disrepute'. There appears to be genuine anger within the ranks of the SPFL, though it looks like Robertson has been set up to be the sacrificial lamb (or lump under the carpet) and may be used to deflect the full repercussions from the club he was acting on behalf of. 


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incredibleadamspark 8th May 2020 at 11:49 Allyjambo, all that’s a possible for sure but I just feel that for some fans it doesn’t matter if you wear the green and grey hoops or an orange away top you will fit your views around certain events in Scottish football to suit predetermined opinions/conspiracies. Scottish football is facing an uncertain future, as is our society, and the way Rangers have went about things has been an absolute embarrassment. I just can not see what they are hoping to achieve. Stay safe.

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I agree that many/most supporters of all clubs (even ones who conflate grey with white) form their opinions around whatever suits their argument, it is more or less the same in every aspect of life, but as you say, TRFC's vindictive attempt at achieving goodness knows what is an absolute embarrassment, especially to thinking bears; and Celtic, whether through integrity or just having smarter people at the top, are extremely unlikely to ever make such a pig's ear of trying to 'encourage' others to facilitate their required outcome.

Hope you stay safe, too.


Les Says It is Time to Ask The Audience?
incredibleadamspark 8th May 2020 at 10:38

While Celtic may well have done their level best to ensure TRFC were not handed the league title I very much doubt they'd have come up with the amateurish 'dossier' type 'evidence' that TRFC have produced. For one thing, they wouldn't have had to try too hard to come up with some sort of leverage, such as Resolution12, or even threaten, privately, to raise the good old secret 5 Way Agreement. 

I'm pretty certain that Celtic could, if they so wished, end the Great Lie and finish off, not only TRFC, but also all those who aided and abetted them while involved in the game's governance in 2012 and for some time before and after. They could also just threaten to raise Financial Fair Play with UEFA showing how TRFC signed players they couldn't afford (even after they'd posted such disastrous, touch and go UEFA compliant, Accounts) that enabled them to go so far in the UEFA Cup.

It certainly appears that Celtic have little to fear from TRFC's vindictiveness in terms of honesty and rule breaking, while the opposite is true the other way round, which is why they, TRFC, have had to go after their erstwhile friends at Hampden.


Les Says It is Time to Ask The Audience?
Is there any posters on here that think TRFC's long awaited 'Dossier' was worth the wait, or does everyone agree that every doubt expressed as to the likelihood of it containing any 'smoking gun' evidence was right on the money?

I've not read it, and never will, but every critique I've read so far makes it clear that no one has found anything in it that should worry the two named SPFL board members, or anyone else involved (other than Stewart Robertson, TRFC's own man) and that it's nothing more than, at best, a list of questions to be answered, if anyone has the time.

Most notably, the distinct lack of any suggestion of 'bullying', far and away the most serious of the 'leaked' allegations, appears to be missing.

I have to say, though, that in my distrust of the game's governors I am a tad disappointed in it's patheticness*, as a can of worms once opened is very difficult to close, allowing more worms out that may at first have been sought. Anyone else feel the same way?

*Not an actual word, maybe, but then TRFC are not actually the club they claim to be either, so it's alright, see!


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Tweet from Graham Spiers

"Key part of Rangers’ accusatory statement of April 11: “bullying”. That is a very serious allegation about #SPFL governance. I’m wading through this RFC “dossier” trying to find evidence of “bullying” but haven’t found it yet. But give it time."

I'm sure page 200 will provide the smoking gun and it will take some time for all who have the dossier to reach mail


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