Good Evening,
Whilst it is understandable that the continuing events at Ibrox remain a hot topic among all Scottish Football Fans — especially given the views of some sections of the press on such events– the never ending rush down the marble staircase is certainly not the only show in town.
The other morning we were treated to the “scoop” that Alistair Johnstone is afraid that Craig Whyte– the once proclaimed Multi Billionaire from Motherwell- may well still be pulling all the strings at Ibrox! This is a fear which is shared by those who walk the corridors of Hampden Park as they, too, are terrified of the prospect of Whyte returning in some shape or form and coming back to haunt them, especially as he has been deemed unfit and proper, banned sine die, and generally ridiculed for his past actions.
However, the Hampden jackets know fine well that their realm only stretches so far and that if by means of the proper application of company law, contract or some other piece of paper Whyte controls the shareholding of the self proclaimed “parent company” to the football club then they are in a fix. In fact, I will wager that they just would not know how to deal with such a situation as after all RIFC PLC neither holds a licence to play football nor is a member of the SFA and so, on the face of it, who owns it has nothing to do with them.
At this juncture, no one in authority knows who Blue Pitch Holdings are and, strangely, no one in authority knows who Margarita Holdings are either! Yet these two “holdings” whoever they may be, may well hold all the power down Govan way…… with the SFA completely powerless to find out who they are let alone get into any dialogue with them. All the SFA can do is talk to the appointed Directors and officers of The Rangers Football Club Ltd.
This, is a most unsatisfactory state of affairs.
Meanwhile, they will have no difficulty in finding out who the new shareholders of Dunfermline Athletic are. Those shareholders will come from the fanbase and will be clearly registered at Companies House, with the result that ultimately those fans/shareholders will appoint Directors who will then attend meetings and speak and opine on their behalf and in essence be the ” Voice of Dunfermline” at Hampden.
Perhaps, similar will follow from Heart of Midlothian?
However, those at Hampden — if they have any sense at all– will be most wary of events happening in the east end of Glasgow come November.
In the middle of the month, Celtic PLC will hold its AGM and amidst the items on the agenda is the fan driven notion that the Club— through its Directors—- should go further in holding the SFA to account and enquire into the granting of club licences, and in particular how it granted Rangers a club licence that allowed entry to the Champions League in 2011 when the small tax case was outstanding.
The Celtic board have deemed this motion as “Unnecessary” and in support of that contention have released documentation showing that they raised this very issue with the SFA on behalf of the shareholders and fans. Further– and here is the rub— The Directors reveal that they were not satisfied with the SFA response and have disclosed that they took the matter further and wrote to UEFA.
Ultimately, UEFA also provided a reply, which backed the SFA approach and which Celtic had little option but to accept in the absence of admissible contradicting evidence..
It is on this basis, that Peter Lawell and Co say the AGM motion is not necessary. Note that saying that the motion is not necessary, is not at all the same thing as saying that what the motion seeks to achieve is not necessary or does not have the support of the board!
There will be those at Hampden who severely hope that the Celtic Board are successful in voting this measure down as obviously they deem their original reply sufficient and would like to end the discussion there.
However, my own view, is that whether the motion is successful or not, there are those within the SFA who will recognise there is trouble staring them in the face here. Real Trouble!
Let’s recap for a moment and draw some threads together.
Celtic’s past Chairman, Dr John Reid, said only a couple of years ago that the SFA was clearly not fit for purpose. He did so in the context of events surrounding Neil Lennon and other matters, but was unshakably robust in his condemnation of an institutionalised uselessness which he saw pervaded the Hampden ranks.
Prior to that, Henry McLeish produced a report which stated that he too had concerns about the Governance of Scottish Football and called for openness and transparency.
In the intervening period, we have seen Mr David Longmuir, former Chief Executive of the Scottish Football League, find himelf without a position following reconstruction– and this partly as a result of club chairmen being apparently kept in the dark about his payment, bonuses and expenes. I understand that there was considerable anger from some at the way in which they had been treated by Mr Longmuir.
Then there is Mr Campbell Ogilvie, El Presidente, who himself benefited from a Rangers EBT and who held sway at Ibrox during a period of time when Rangers– by their own admission— made unlawful and illegal payments to three high profile players in breach of tax laws and SFA/SPL rules. It is these breaches and the consequent Wee Tax Bill which has caused all the angst among Celtic fans and has lead to the highly regulated legal step of tabling a motion at the club’s AGM.
Basically, the position seems to be, that as at the due date when the appropriate documents and declarations were made for a Euro Licence by Rangers for 2011, the wee tax bill was outstanding and due. If it was overdue, then the SFA could not and should not have granted them a licence……. and potentially Celtic should then have been put forward as Scotland’s representatives in the Champion’s League.
However, that did not happen, and Ranger’s were granted a licence– something that the Celtic Directors clearly felt was not correct.
They may have disagreed with the awarding of the licence because there were those at Rangers at the time who declared that a payment to account had been made to the tax office– allegedly £500,000– and that they had entered into an agreement to make payment of the balance by instalments. Had that been so, then all would have been hunky dory and no more would have been said.
Alas, however, no such payment appears to have been made at all, and no such agreement was entered into and so, on that basis, the tax bill was overdue and outstanding as at 30th June in terms of Article 66 and as such no Euro Licence should have been granted.
However, the argument does not end there.
Auldheid, has posted frequently on these pages about the ins and outs of the licensing provisions and the mechanism and so I will leave that detail to him as he is far more expert in these areas than me.
Now, one of the SFA functions is to have an auditor– someone who can check books, contracts, paper work and so on, and it is part of the SFA licensing function to be satisfied that all the paperwork is of course correct and in proper fashion before they issue any licence.
In this case, it is alleged that the SFA did not perform their function properly.
In relation to the wee tax case, it is said that either they did not make sufficient enquiry of Rangers re the payment to account or the agreement which they were told was in place. At the time it was mooted in the press that no such agreement was in place as at the relevant date ( June 30th ) and a simple check with the revenue would have shown the truth of the matter.
Yet, for whatever reason, no such check appears to have been made, and if you recall a Radio Scotland interview with Alistair Johnstone, Rangers submitted the forms, the SFA replied with one or two enquiries about the BIG tax case which were answered, and thereafter the Licence appears to have simply dropped through the letter box without further ado.
You will also recall that the existence of the wee tax case became known BEFORE Craig Whyte bought David Murray’s shareholding in May 2011. In fact it was the subject of News Paper headlines weeks before the deal was completed, and so the fact that there was a wee tax bill was well and truly in the public domain.
When it came to filling in the appropriate forms,either, the SFA were mislead by those then at Rangers with regard to that tax bill, OR, they simply failed to do the requisite checks and make reasonable enquiries before they issued the licence.
However, the uncomfortable fact also remains, that one of the chaps who must have been in the know re the admittedly unlawful and offending side letters, contracts and payments to the three players concerned was Campbell Ogilivie who was on the Rangers Board at the relevant time when the contracts and irregular payments were made under the Discount Options Scheme from 1999 to 2002/3. Indeed he may even have initiated the first payment to Craig Moore in 1999. I reiterate that no one has ever contested that this was an unlawful scheme, and the irregular payments and paperwork are not denied in relation to that scheme.
There are Celtic shareholders who believe, rightly or wrongly, that when it came to the granting of the Euro Licence, the SFA did not play them fair on this occasion and that the wheels within Hampden were oiled in such a way that Rangers were favoured and Celtic were disadvantaged. It is a point that looks to have already been considered by the Celtic Directors in 2011, with the result that they concluded that they should formally write to the SFA and seek clarification.
However, we now have the prospect of those same directors having to go back to Hampden and say ” Sorry, but I am forced to bring this up by my shareholders. I have a legal duty to them to enquire further”. Even if the motion is refused, the point has been made– there are shareholders who are demanding answers– just as shareholders of other clubs demand answers about the ever so secret 5 way agreement and other matters which have hitherto been not for public consumption.
The SFA have nothing to fear of course as they can simply repeat their previous answers,demonstrate that all was above board, and rest easy in their beds.
Except that answer did not satisfy the Celtic Directors on a previous occasion as they decided to take the matter to UEFA, and it would appear that some Celtic shareholders remain dissatisfied with the known stance of the SFA and so they want the Directors of the club to delve further. Without wishing to point out the obvious, if it turns out that the 2011 Licensing process was somehow fudged and not conducted rigorously or that those at Hampden were in any way economical with the truth or omitted certain details from the previous explanation, or covered up a failure in procedures—- well such omissions have a habit of becoming public these days whether that be through the internet or otherwise.
The point here is that the actions of Hampden officials are coming under organised, legal and planned corporate scrutiny over which they have no control. The Blazer and club mentality that was once so widespread within the governing bodies is under increasing attack and is being rendered a thing of the past.
In short, the move by Celtic shareholders, is making it plain that they will demand proper corporate governance from their club in ensuring that any alleged failure in corporate governance by the SFA or SPFL is properly investigated and reported on.
Of course, if it turns out that the 2011 Licensing process was somehow fudged and not conducted properly for whatever reason, then it could be argued that Celtic were disadvantaged in monetary terms along with other clubs who may have been awarded Europa League licences, then the consequences could be cataclysmic. Hence a tendency to circle the wagons rather than admit to failures in the process that need addressing.
It is this reluctance to come out and accept that the licensing process appears to have failed, say at what point the process failed and what needs to be done to address those failures that in many ways has driven the resolution. It is clear to all that something is amiss but the SFA will not admit it, probably from fear of the consequences of doing so? Perhaps some form of indemnity, a lessons learned enquiry with no prejudice might help?
It would come as no surprise to me at all if there were those at Hampden who live in dreaded fear of admitting that their processes were flawed and that a grave mistake was made. Under these circumstances, there may well be those at Hampden who simply wish that Celtic and their fans would just go away!
Off topic slightly ,but does anyone know when [S] David Murray took up residence in India.
Charlotte Fakes III @CharlotteFakes3 14m
From the initial GM proposal.
Chris Morgan represents much more than just BPH.
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Tif Finn says: (594)
October 24, 2013 at 5:17 pm
Yup. “Go after them” was misleading.
I meant remind the SFA of their responsibilities as governors to use their full powers under their own rules (UEFA FFP Article 43 declaration) to check tax payer is not being disadvantaged.
I seem to remember the English FA doing something to bring in checks on clubs on tax arrears but could not find it to link to. Maybe it never got off the ground.
The club (Clyde) were asked, the answer twice was an evasive “he was unopposed”. No confirmation of whether they voted or abstained. 😥
This may well be OT, but I place it here in the context of the SMSM and the power they wield.
The man at the heart of the Grangemouth affair is Stephen Deans, convener of the Unite union in Scotland, who has worked at Grangemouth for 24 years.
It was Mr Deans’ role as chairman of the Labour Party in the Falkirk constituency which landed him in hot water with his employer, the owner of Grangemouth.
But Mr Deans has disappeared from the media. You will not find Mr Deans being interviewed anywhere on TV or radio.
Nor will you find an image of Stephen Deans in any newspaper or TV website, or even on Google images.
For people like us who are very interested in the workings of the media,
the question is not why Stephen Deans has been cleansed from the media
but who has made this happen.
Someone in this country has decided that Stephen Dean’s picture will not appear anywhere in the UK media
and I for one just think that it is important that we all should know who that someone is.
Has Chic Young been heard since last weeks outburst??
Was the pipe smoking QC on the board of RFC(IL), when the old club started up the DOS,I know he resigned in May 1999 but it would be interesting to know if he was part of the board that started up the discount option scheme, him being a legal man n’all,just asking.
chic was on CL duty on Tuesday.
i’m not sure if he shoehorned some reference to sevco in there somewhere – he usually does.
Second from the left
http://www.johnogroat-journal.co.uk/News/North-trade-unionists-back-Wick-Wants-Work-campaign-20052011.htm
It is great that we are really back on track with the guilty DOS and raising questions about a licence that should not have been granted. This links into UTT which should be won on appeal with HMRC. The LNS fiasco will be shown for what it was (a shambles and cover up) Thanks to BRTH, Auldheid etc..great information and analysis.
The Celtic shareholders are doing what they can, all other clubs shareholders or supporters should also demand answers to the running of the SFA and in particular Mr Nice man Campbell Ogilvie. The SMSM no doubt read this website and are aware as we are of the aim to save one club no matter what. They have no pride, no integrity, no shame, cannot carry out their job correctly and have been ridiculed by AT as he asked questions they ignored. Time is running out for Sevco and the SMSM and I for one am enjoying every minute of it (this is down to years of getting treatment for suspected paranoia).
DK fit and proper, NO. Will he fit in at Govan, Yes.
Can anybody name a person who could help turn Sevco around that has not got a shady background and is a real Rangers man? Think about it.
manandboy says: (302)
October 24, 2013 at 6:18 pm
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Someone in this country has decided that Stephen Dean’s picture will not appear anywhere in the UK media and I for one just think that it is important that we all should know who that someone is.
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Do you think that it is Labour or Unite that is trying to keep a lid on any link between Grangemouth and Len’s attempt to gerrymander his bird into the Falkirk seat?
Stephen Dean Unite generates 1,100,00 hits on google so he’s hardly disappeared. You need to be a MBB to afford to be able to do that.
scottc says: (336)
October 24, 2013 at 8:08 pm
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Thanks Scottc – well found and in the John O’Groats Journal no less.
and published on 22/05/2011.
Place and date count it out as meaningful
This guy is at the centre of a very, very big issue, and he can’t be traced !?
My point still stands – the guy’s been airbrushed out. By whom ?
Why are we discussing the Grangemouth issue on here????
I have my own views and opinion on the issue, more than anything, I hope it gets sorted to the benefit of the workforce (which I seriously doubt in this day and age)……………….but it should not be on here.
Liberty taken as offered. 😎
Don’t know about you but I am fed up with people peddling the myth that King is the man that matters, as per keevins tonight.
He is an insignificance. He is an unfit person not just in SA but here. Let it not be forgotten that when he was diddling the taxman in SA he was also sitting on the board of Rangers.
He paid not to gain respectability but to avoid jail.
As for the SFA and CO they are beneath contempt and have no shame- a permanent disgrace.
In this life there are said to be three certainties, Birth, taxes and death.
When you are born there is a birth certificate, when you pay yout taxes you get a receipt and when you die your family get a death certificate.
If you apply that simple statement to the tribute act currently playing at Ibrokes what do you get?
Birth Certificate -Born Sevco 2012
No receipt for paying tax
Death certificate – In liquidation.
No amount of spin can change what is recorded at Companies House.
Can you die twice?
One of the many things that has niggled at me through the years was the signing by David Murray of Maurice Johnston from under the noses of Celtic.
Johnston’s signature was a foregone conclusion, the one and only King Billy (McNeill) had the deal done, dusted and hosed, Maurice was homeward bound.
In steps Murray & Souness at 23.59 on the last day, matching Celtic’s offer to Maurice of a £1 Million signing on fee.
Maurice was asked why he took the Rangers offer of £1 Million signing on fee as opposed to the Celtic offer of a £1 Million signing on fee, his answer was:
Rangers would pay the tax.
Well?…………………Did they?
Bawsman says: (215)
October 24, 2013 at 8:33 pm
‘….Why are we discussing the Grangemouth issue on here????’
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Quite right, it is pretty far off topic!
And yet, and yet, the happenings at Ibrox and the events at Grangemouth have one thing in common: both were triggered by devious,arrogant , megalomaniacal multi-millionaire majority shareholders, determined to get their own way no matter what.
John clarke says: (1284)
October 24, 2013 at 8:53 pm
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John,
Be talking about hitler next. Apparently, when you do that the argument is lost 😉
john clarke says: (1284)
October 24, 2013 at 8:53 pm
Well said John. Bully boy tactics and disgusting treatment of taxpayers.
Bawsman says: (217)
October 24, 2013 at 8:45 pm
Dont know if you know the background to that. I was teaching a CFC employee to drive at the time and he told me a few weeks before the signing that it was going to happen. Afterwards he told me Celtic wouldnt deal with McMurdo, the agent, so Johnston did deal himself and didnt realise about having to pay his taxes till pointed out later by McMurdo. Celtic attitude at time was, tough thats what you agreed to.
Steady lads.
The reason I posted re Grangemouth is the Media angle – nothing more.
The SMSM is a big issue on TSFM.
The connection with Grangemouth is that the guy at the centre of it all
Stephen Deans, seems to have been ‘disappeared’ in the media.
No interviews, no images – anywhere (since2011).
My interest is purely in the media side – tho’ 100% behind plant recovery.
Rangers appoint new board members http://twitpic.com/dim1nv
paulsatim says: (579)
October 24, 2013 at 9:18 pm
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No idea to the background at all mate.
The McMurdo/agent thing rigs a bell but I just thought the deal stunk of underhand dealing at the time.
I started to really twig there were serious financial issues at Ibrox when Murray had his £52 Million ‘share issue’ and (MIH) bought £51 Million of them.
Also, when the tax evasion stuff was becoming common knowledge, I started thinking, if Murray basically avoided tax as a norm the Johnston transfer was probably his first tax avoiding experiment at the Rangers.
neepheid says: (875)
October 24, 2013 at 3:49 pm
What the hell is going on in our game when an admittedly conflicted individual gets another 2 years at the top of our game by universal acclamation? Why is nobody asking the clubs? What is going on?
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They’re just taking their lead from the big boys at FIFA..hand the world cup to a country with the biggest racism problem in the sport..then give the next one to whoever offers you the most brown paper envelopes and turn a blind eye to a construction site mortality rates akin to those in the days of the Pharaohs..fantastic.
Sometimes i wonder what motivates the people on this blog (myself included) to devote hundreds of hours a year to banging our heads against a brick wall. I hope we don’t regret it when we’re old and infirm and wish we could have those wasted hours back.
Sorry, I have had a bad day. Keep up the good work everyone
SouthernExile says: (141)
October 24, 2013 at 8:23 pm
Stephen Dean Unite generates 1,100,00 hits on google so he’s hardly disappeared. You need to be a MBB to afford to be able to do that.
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I got 33,000,000 myself! However – apparently no pictures. Of a man in a fairly prominent position.
It is quite remarkable – I can put my own name in and the first line of pictures in Google Images is mostly me.
Another Union fellow – Mark Serwotka of PCS, produces endless photos.
The lack of images of Mr Dean is at least interesting. Perhaps one of these super injunction thingies?
theoldshed says: (43)
October 24, 2013 at 9:58 pm
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Keep the faith……………..the likes of Ogilvie depend on us jacking it in…………..I was paranoid for 55 years apparently, I’m in for the long haul as a bhampot 😉
From Gersnet (I know I know)
. . .Quite just who the legal beneficiary or beneficiaries plural of the much discussed Blue Pitch Holdings actually is or are is one of the hottest burning questions of the last 16 months since Charles Green, his associates & their financial backers successfully achieved a failed CVA and completed their so-called ‘binding agreement’ to buy the Club from the clutches of administrators Duff & Phelps.
There’s been more questions on the minds of Rangers fans since back then in our Club’s darkest days than most people care to remember (including ourselves, the fans), but this particular question has been asked so many times that it’s absolutely staggering we’re still having to ask it. “Who are Blue Pitch Holdings?” has been asked by fans, fan reps, fan groups, influential fans, ex-directors and investors alike, but still there’s been no definitive answer…. from anyone.
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That’s a new one on me.
. . . Of the last 16 months
…since Charles Green, his associates & their financial backers successfully achieved a failed CVA !
Sounds great – but, what does it mean
= LIQUIDATION 😳
Dr. Mike McDermott @MikejMcDermott 5m
Looks like
Longmuir –> #SevCo is a goer then
what a surprise ! – NOT
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tearsofjoy says: (30)
October 24, 2013 at 12:06 pm
Greenock Jack says: (88)
October 24, 2013 at 10:55 am
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Celtic fans attacking stewards is despicable and the perpetrators should be locked up, but comparing this incident to Rangers fans rioting in Pamplona, Seville, Barcelona, [twice] and the grand daddy of them all, Manchester, is just a tad disingenuous
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I wouldn’t say it’s disingenuous at all, not in the original context that provoked the post ie the mis- reporting of the fan trouble at Parkhead.
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The “context” your post suggests was “the misreporting of the fan trouble at Parkhead”, is inaccurate.
My original post was aimed at The Rangers Standard’s claims that Rangers fans well earned reputation for severe violence was not accurate and just sensationalism by our national newspapers.
My point was their behaviour and their reputation was documented on youtube videos, two of which I posted.
Nothing to do with the mis-reported violence at the Ajax game.
pau1mart1n says: (229)
October 24, 2013 at 7:39 pm
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chic was on CL duty on Tuesday.
i’m not sure if he shoehorned some reference to sevco in there somewhere – he usually does.
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Not sure, but I’m sure that I heard him have a wee homophobic dig at Celtic. He suggested that Celtic’s penalty was of the Stonewall variety.
David Longmuir on his way to RIFC/TRFC? https://twitter.com/nickeardley/status/393485267635404800/photo/1
paulsatim says: (580)
October 24, 2013 at 10:26 pm
Dr. Mike McDermott @MikejMcDermott 5m
Looks like
Longmuir –> #SevCo is a goer then
what a surprise ! – NOT .
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If true ,a perfect fit. this is a man who negotiated a £300,000 going away bonus with his pal Ballantyne,without telling anybody else.
I have never used the phrase before,but here goes, “you couldn’t make it up”
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jimlarkin says: (573)
October 24, 2013 at 10:11
…. one of the hottest burning questions of the last 16 months since Charles Green, his associates & their financial backers successfully achieved a failed CVA…….
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One of the most perceptive comments I’ve heard.
Clean start, clean hands, saves £3m……oops what’s this TUPE?
Carfins Finest says: (30)
October 24, 2013 at 10:35 pm
David Longmuir on his way to RIFC/TRFC? https://twitter.com/nickeardley/status/393485267635404800/photo/1
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Being objective, getting Longmuir could be a good move for TRFC.
[But if interviewed, would Longmuir ask the bog-standard question: “What is the senior management turnover rate? ” 🙄 ]
And to complete the Dream Team, Ogilvie could resign from the SFA as the – rather belatedly – ‘honourable thing to do’ .
Longmuir gets back in the game with his favourite Govan club.
Ogilvie gets to leave the SFA on his own terms – and to join the latest incarnation of his favourite club as Chairman ? Funny handshakes all round !
It’s that ridiculous it just might come true…
SPFL to investigate claims of secret bonus payments to SFL chief David Longmuir
Wonder how this investigation is going?
15 Aug 2013 08:08 THE former chief executive of the now-defunct Scottish Football League has been accused of receiving secret six-figure sums by angered lower league clubs.
THE SPFL have launched an investigation into claims that secret bonus payments were made to former SFL chief David Longmuir.
Furious lower league clubs called for an enquiry into why Longmuir received almost £400,000 in financial enhancements during his six years in office at Hampden.
Accountants for the SFL, as well as former board members Ewen Cameron of Alloa and Arbroath’s Anne McKeown, are examining the detail behind the payments as part of a winding down of the old league body.
Record Sport understands the possibility of Longmuir’s payments being clawed back in court has not been ruled out if the investigation decide there is cause to question the legalities of the payments.
This process was triggered by our revelation that the merger between the SPL and SFL was delayed when it became clear Longmuir was due to receive a £100,000 bonus for last season.
When SPL representatives refused to cough up, it was agreed the payment would be met from SFL funds. That effectively ended any hopes Longmuir had of beating the SPL’s Neil Doncaster to the new chief executive role – but it’s understood he received a £200,000 severance payment.
When 37 of the 42 SPFL clubs met at Hampden on Monday it emerged that Longmuir had received roughly £400,000 in bonuses – allegedly for bringing in fresh sponsorship.
Since most of the cash received came from the SPL’s TV deal – the SFL received £1m from the top tier for rights to Rangers’ games in the Third Division – the feeling at the meeting was Longmuir had not justified his bonus.
That the only other SFL board member aware of them was James Ballantyne also provoked fury. The SPFL board will now attempt to discover whether a proper process had been followed.
The real questions are…. what is Longmuir bringing with him,or what does he know about the 5 way agreement ?.
Charlotte Fakes III @CharlotteFakes3 10s
Seems the CW payment to Imrans Mum can now be reconciled as 50% of £250k exclusivity fee/deposit and 50% of £25k FFW fees to date = £137.5k
harlotte Fakes III @CharlotteFakes3 10m
Authors of Purchase Agreement.
Asset purchase clause inserted by Aidan Earley (aka Chad Edmund) and Rafat Rizvi.
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John Clarke,
Hello John,I have only been able to find 2 agents so far.
Between them they had 6 players and one Manager,with over £7million in EBT’s.
I don’t know if they were representing the above when they received the money. Need to check more, that’s why i’m not naming them.
5 of them had side letters.
Did Aberdeen Asset Management not sponsor Aberdeen not so long ago ?
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paulsatim just posted this
please read!
Nuclear anyone?
Welcome Mr Longmuir. As a stock in trade pretendygers type of chap. What’s your reaction to the indisputable fact that Craig Whyte and Rafat Rizvi are investors in your business.
Would that not be a reasonable first question for the meja to put to the new boy about 0800 tomorrow?
ianagain says: (9)
October 24, 2013 at 11:33 pm
Wont be holding my breath!
Surely, Rizvi and Whyte as well as Longmuir, due to his “secret bonus payments” from SFL, would all not pass F+PP test
Unless my old eyes decive me he’s a man o the pepil even arriving in a wheelbarrow instead of a megabus. Or is the Scotsman PIC blurred?
Paul me neither but you live in hope.
ianagain says: (11)
October 24, 2013 at 11:46 pm
Penny for the guy!!!
Post on KDS saying keevins seems to think craig whyte is still involved at sevco, and all will be revealed shortly.
Tic 6709 says: (489)
October 24, 2013 at 11:09 pm
‘..Hello John,I have only been able to find 2 agents so far…’
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Roger, Tic, thanks. I don’t imagine anyone has ever asked any of the agents about their clients’ EBTs? Could be fun.
from RM they really dont do irony do they? Anyone think of a reason Sevco shirts not in Manchester?
*Off topic but i was very disapointed to find Sports Direct in Manchester dont stock our tops in either of their two stores in the city center 🙁 i know we are not as big a draw down here but i thought our official sports retail partner would at least make the effort of having a few of our shirts in stock.*
http://www.eveningtimes.co.uk/rangers/rangerscomment/derek-rae-compromise-is-key-as-battle-of-the-board-peaks-140388n.22506322
Hello all. Been away, now tryin to catch up. I honestly didn’t think it could get much more convoluted and murky. Boy, was I wrong!!. Having a quick scan of the red tops and came across this gem in the Evening Times. Seems some things ain’t gonna change. How do they get away with this utter nonsense?
By the way, missed you all and glad that this thing ain’t changing either.
@paulsatim
Is there further to CF3’s latest?
Random thought – the more statements that the various supporters groups of Rangers issue, the more silent the SFA appear to become!
One may think that It should not be that difficult for the SFA to issue a statement, say on the speculation of Mr King returning to play a prominent role in Rangers along the lines of – the rules are clear, the position is such, Mr King cannot play a role in the club etc.
The MSM and the fans of the club need a hero with off the radar wealth to save the day – that much is clear. Perhaps the silence from the regulators of our game suggests that they are also in desperate need such a hero, to save the day.
The trouble is that Rangers have a track record of not being able to secure people who have the best interests of a football club in mind . They appear to attract people who are determined to take out more cash than they put in.
I used to think that the SFA will do what ever is needed to save Rangers. I am increasingly of the view that that the SFA and Rangers will now sink together.
Even if a hero emerges – off the scale cash, interested in saving the club – the spivs appear to have sewn everything up that no-one will go near the mess.
Perhaps the only way out for the SFA is to take decisive action to rid the club from the spivs – to make clear that all clubs must be run correctly on a sound financial basis etc. That way honest people may be attracted to the club.
Sadly, I cannot see that happening.
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Nuclear anyone?
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Maybe nuclear with some less corrupt FA, but remember we’re talking about ‘The parcel of brogues’ here.
Sweep, sweep. 👿
Re Dave Longmuir potentially being brought into the Ibrox Boardroom. While It would hardly be the shock of the century, more disturbing for me is the general media acceptance that moves between Hampden and Ibrox are okay. Can it be right that we have people who are allegedly in a role where they act in the best interests of all clubs, then moving to a role where the prime motive is to rule over every other club by any means possible? If Longmuir moves he will be the 2nd such person to make such a move since 2011.
Scottish football ‘governance’ really does stink to the high heavens.
Longmuir again. But is he dressed up as a giant rodent? His ability to award himself bonus nuts while at the SFL could make him a perfect match for Ibrox.
http://www.scotsman.com/sport/football/spfl-lower-divisions/rangers-board-linked-with-bid-to-recruit-longmuir-1-3156598
upthehoops says: (583)
October 25, 2013 at 7:16 am
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Makes you wonder where we would have been now had neither Regan nor Doncaster been around. Ineffective and maligned as they are, they were perhaps a hindrance that stopped an even greater injustice?
Jim farry…gordon smith…david longmuir…campbell Ogilvie
Were they all born with Rangersness or Rangersitis ?
The amount of detailed evidence of wrongdoing, manipulation of facts, obfuscation, bullying ,cheating and downright good old fashioned lying uncovered in this blog and previously at RTC regarding the ongoing omnishambles down Govan way is staggering, utterly staggering…
Yet not one person involved has had the good grace to admit to being ashamed or embarrassed by it all…
Good grief!…
I’d be hiding under the bed wi’ the biggest riddy ever if i’d been caught up in this caper!…
Is ANYONE, ANYWHERE going to do the decent thing and resign?
Scottish football needs…ach! it needs an enema…
From BBC Sport website:
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Fans’ groups positive after Rangers blueprint meeting
Jim McColl and Paul Murray impressed fans’ representatives in a meeting to outline their plans for Rangers.
Clyde Blowers chairman McColl and former Ibrox director Murray addressed the three main supporters groups, along with ex-chairman Malcom Murray.
The pair are leading a group of shareholders trying to force changes to the Scottish League One club’s board.
“I think the majority of fans are behind this,” said Rangers Supporters Assembly president Andy Kerr.
“It was a very successful meeting. We were quite happy with what we heard from Jim McColl and Paul Murray and the key now is to communicate that information.”
Kerr said his organisation would release details of the meeting on Friday in a Question and Answer format.
The Rangers Supporters Trust and Rangers Supporters Association were also represented at the two-and-a-half-hour gathering in East Kilbride, with McColl and Murray leaving without comment to the media.
This month, the McColl-Murray group took court action that forced Rangers to delay their planned annual meeting.
The group of shareholders had been unhappy that the club had not included their request for Murray, former chairman Murray and allies Alex Wilson and Scott Murdoch to be put up for election to the board.
In August, Rangers told the stock exchange that McColl and Murray were behind a bid to have an extraordinary meeting called to discuss removing then chief executive Craig Mather, director Bryan Smart and finance director Brian Stockbridge from the board, replacing them with Murray and Frank Blin.
Mather and Smart resigned their posts last week – following the departure of non-executive director Ian Hart – leaving just Stockbridge and James Easdale in charge of the club’s board.
The club say they are working “as a matter of priority” to appoint new directors ahead of the new AGM, which must take place before 31 December.
Not yet, mate.
https://twitter.com/CharlotteFakes3
jimlarkin says: (574)
October 25, 2013 at 7:56 am
Jim farry…gordon smith…david longmuir…campbell Ogilvie
I just wish I had the artistic ability to draw the words DREAM JOB in big shiny letters sitting on a rope bridge in flames over a nest of vipers with an MSM caricature stretching out a paper tissue shouting “we’ll catch you, we always do’
Angus1983 says: (1197)
October 25, 2013 at 9:43 am
In other news me and my mate shuggie are all set to take over Ineos and save the Grangemouth Plant from closure, we can take over from today no probs although Shuggie’s got a kids birthday party on Sunday. What’s that, money you say?……………………….although apparently despite having a reporter on site to receive the ‘no comment’ comment, plus a photographer at the meeting at no point did the media think to ask the question or offer any anlytical comment other than “Kingy’s coming”
With apologies to anyone directly involved at Grangemouth.
I see someone bought one Sevco share this morning.
Looks like Mcoll is making his move.
FORMER Rangers captain Barry Ferguson has claimed that he saw Scottish football fans thow bananas at Mark Walters in the 1980s, and has called for Uefa to take a tough stance against racism in wake of Yaya Toure’s protests at the vile behaviour of CSKA Moscow fans in the Champions League this week.
Writing in his weekly newspaper column in the Daily Record today, Ferguson says coping with general abuse is part and parcel of being a professional footballer, but says the racist chanting CSKA fans have been accused of is yet another unacceptable example of a line being crossed.
Ibrox manager Graeme Souness broke down many race boundaries when he signed England’s international winger Mark Walters for Rangers from Aston Villa in December 1987. While there had been black footballers in Scottish football before, Walters had been the first high-profile player in decades.
However, 35-year-old Ferguson claims that when he attended Rangers matches as a young supporter he has memories of abuse and bananas being hurled at Walters.
‘Turns my stomach’
In his column, the Blackpool midfielder said: “I remember 1988 when I was just nine years old and Mark Walters had signed for Rangers.
“I used to go and watch a lot of games back then because my brother [Derek Ferguson, the former Rangers midfielder] was in them. To this day I can still see those images in my head of bananas being thrown on to the pitch.
“I was a kid. I didn’t really understand what was going on. But looking back, it turns my stomach to think Scottish fans could have acted like that.
“Thankfully, we’ve come a long way since then. If such a thing happened in a British stadium today there would be a massive outcry. You just need to see the stick Roy Hodgson has taken for telling a joke about a monkey to see how seriously the subject of race is treated.
“That ridiculous episode should never have got further than the dressing-room walls. Andros Townsend didn’t take offence because it wasn’t racism – it was just a bad joke.
“But what went on in Moscow on Wednesday night really does deserve all of our outrage. I just hope Uefa have the courage to do the right thing.”
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Well said Barry ferguson
. . . I wonder, did you ever hear any anti Irish sentiment, songs or gestures at ibrox, and if so, did you, or would you speak out about it
Sorry Barry, did you say something, oh, just wind, never mind.
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jimlarkin says: (575)
October 25, 2013 at 10:32 am
FORMER Rangers captain Barry Ferguson has claimed that he saw Scottish football fans thow bananas at Mark Walters in the 1980s, and has called for Uefa to take a tough stance against racism in wake of Yaya Toure’s protests at the vile behaviour of CSKA Moscow fans in the Champions League this week
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Jim, what he is not saying is Rangers (IL) fans threw bananas at Walters.
paulsatim says: (588)
October 24, 2013 at 11:58 pm
Post on KDS saying keevins seems to think craig whyte is still involved at sevco, and all will be revealed shortly.
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Is this the same Hugh Keevins who not so long ago dismissed questions about Rangers financial difficulties from Radio Clyde SSB callers because, he said…”I am a sports reporter not a financial journalist, and know nothing about such matters”…and in the next breath said such callers were internet bampots who didn’t know what they were talking about?
I’m sure it can’t possibly be.
Who would have such a brass neck.
http://www.scotsman.com/sport/football/spfl-lower-divisions/rangers-board-linked-with-bid-to-recruit-longmuir-1-3156598
Please tell me, how can a liquidated club take part in a league or hold an AGM? ❓
Tic 6709 says: (490)
October 25, 2013 at 10:13 am
‘..I see someone bought one Sevco share this morning.
Looks like Mcoll is making his move.’
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I know he’s spoken of as being already a share-holder, but maybe he actually isn’t-and had to buy one quick in order to attend any AGM that might be called?
To buy just one share would be typical of the tightwad millionaire.
Angus1983 says: (1197)
October 25, 2013 at 9:43 am
From BBC Sport website:
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Fans’ groups positive after Rangers blueprint meeting
Jim McColl and Paul Murray impressed fans’ representatives in a meeting to outline their plans for Rangers.
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fans’ representatives impresses ??????? when are they not? whyte – impressed, green – impressed etc…
Tic 6709 says
Jim, what he is not saying is Rangers (IL) fans threw bananas at Walters.
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Don’t want to take this further but just to show what actually happened.
10 seconds into the video.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=Hk4KF1ZLqbs
Regarding the CSKA Moscow racism, FIFA’s VP was on one of the sports stations yesterday and he named sectarianism and racism in the same breath as things that should not be tolerated.
I was also happy to hear that he, and I take it FIFA, felt the time for fines was gone and partial and complete stadium closures are the way ahead, followed presumably by disqualification for a 3rd offence. Stadium closure for sectarian singing and chanting is something we in Scotland should have pioneered. Instead, we’ve allowed sectarianism to fester to the point where it is almost part of the fabric of Scottish football.
Now, will UEFA take action with Gazprom as a major sponsor? Of will they take the financial Armageddon line?
Greenock Jack says: (96)
October 25, 2013 at 11:05 am
Tic 6709 says
Jim, what he is not saying is Rangers (IL) fans threw bananas at Walters.
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This was despicable, agreed, but I KNOW Rangers (IL) fans threw bananas at Walters.
Or don’t you remember?
sorry jack missed out your reply.
BigGav says: (53)
October 25, 2013 at 10:49 am
‘…..Please tell me, how can a liquidated club take part in a league or hold an AGM? :?:’
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That was my cue,BigGav, for a quick email to Halliday, of the Scotsman stephen.halliday@jpress.co.uk
“.Stephen,
‘…..when the SPL refused the liquidated club a place in the top flight,..’
Be reasonable! How could a deid club be put in any flight, let alone the topflight?.
We really need to stop pussyfooting around. RFC is in liquidation. It does not exist as a member of the SFA and/or SPFL.
You really must start being brave, and begin to make the very sharp distinction between RFC as was and is no more, and the new club (rangers international fc plc, with a new Companies House number) , which, as you know, was illicitly permitted membership of the SFA.
Either that or resign.
What’s the point in being a propagandist for a lie?
And get after the Longmuir story.
Yours…”
Halliday’s not the worst, but nevertheless it’s outrageous the way they all seem to toe a party line, or allow themselves to be bullied by their editors into submitting to the party line.
I watched an old episode of a TV series last night, in which an intrepid journalist went to jail to protect his sources.
Couldn’t happen in this great wee country of ours- journalists of integrity?
Greenock Jack
Tic 6709
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Before everyone starts a tit for tat spat that helps nobody, I would ask everyone to ignore any comment from any individual about banana throwing or other distasteful practices from the past in response to that article.
It’s nothing more than a distraction, which is what the original piece was designed to achieve.
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Madbhoy24941 says: (297)
October 25, 2013 at 11:23 am
Greenock Jack
Tic 6709
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Fair enough,I fell for it.