Reflections on Goalposts

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Fergusslayedtheblues says: January 16, 2014 at 8:16 pm “Are they in …

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fergusslayedtheblues says:

January 16, 2014 at 8:16 pm
“Are they in the habit of issuing licences on a punt or is this another first in this debacle”
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Are they in the habit of issuing licenses to new clubs at all? But you are, of course, correct, whatever the basis for issuing the license, it had nothing to do with proper examination of Sevco’s credentials, just a desire to get a ‘Rangers’ playing in the Scottish league. What is happening now to TRFC is the fault of all those involved with that club, what happens to the detriment of Scottish football as a result, is the fault of those at the top of the SFA, and SPFL.

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AT’s blog doesn’t have a lot of meat on it, though I doubt he’d post it if he didn’t think it worthwhile and there’s every chance it’s been toned down by the legal people. However it pans out, it doesn’t help TRFC, though it might mean they get rid of him, once and for all, in about 2 years time 😉 after a long, and expensive, legal battle!

Graham Wallace might find he has to face a ‘cash up front’, or security, request from the club’s lawyers for their fees before they enter into any negotiations with Whyte’s people. It all might blow over if Whyte is really only flying a kite, but, if not, it might make Wallace’s plans unworkable, and lead to him bailing out while there’s still money to pay his final salary!


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If Whyte’s claims, whatever they are, aren’t as devastating for TRFC as we might imagine (hope) let’s hope they do damage to the SFA/SPL administrators over their handling of the fiasco of keeping ‘Rangers’ alive. Even if he manages to throw some light onto the secrets of the 5 way agreement, and any other deals with Sevco/Green, a few more pieces of the jigsaw puzzle might just fall into place. But if Tommo’s piece doesn’t get past the legals…we might never know!


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I doubt it will be of much interest here but AT tweeting that he hopes to have a blog up later today about CW, just waiting for lawyers to clear it. Probably nothing 😉


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Les Says It is Time to Ask The Audience?
StevieBC 8th May 2020 at 12:54

I think your point was addressed in page 2 of the SPFL letter, Stevie, (sorry, can't copy and paste it) in the paragraph that begins, 'Several of us have also been asked…' where it ends by saying that they can't comment until after the EGM, which I think would naturally be the case.

Can I say that the SPFL board do not seem to have missed TRFC, and in particular Stewart Robertson, and hit the wall. It is also clear from the paragraph I refer to that some of the clubs, at least, share our view that TRFC's actions are/were 'bringing the game into disrepute'. There appears to be genuine anger within the ranks of the SPFL, though it looks like Robertson has been set up to be the sacrificial lamb (or lump under the carpet) and may be used to deflect the full repercussions from the club he was acting on behalf of. 


Les Says It is Time to Ask The Audience?
incredibleadamspark 8th May 2020 at 11:49 Allyjambo, all that’s a possible for sure but I just feel that for some fans it doesn’t matter if you wear the green and grey hoops or an orange away top you will fit your views around certain events in Scottish football to suit predetermined opinions/conspiracies. Scottish football is facing an uncertain future, as is our society, and the way Rangers have went about things has been an absolute embarrassment. I just can not see what they are hoping to achieve. Stay safe.

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I agree that many/most supporters of all clubs (even ones who conflate grey with white) form their opinions around whatever suits their argument, it is more or less the same in every aspect of life, but as you say, TRFC's vindictive attempt at achieving goodness knows what is an absolute embarrassment, especially to thinking bears; and Celtic, whether through integrity or just having smarter people at the top, are extremely unlikely to ever make such a pig's ear of trying to 'encourage' others to facilitate their required outcome.

Hope you stay safe, too.


Les Says It is Time to Ask The Audience?
incredibleadamspark 8th May 2020 at 10:38

While Celtic may well have done their level best to ensure TRFC were not handed the league title I very much doubt they'd have come up with the amateurish 'dossier' type 'evidence' that TRFC have produced. For one thing, they wouldn't have had to try too hard to come up with some sort of leverage, such as Resolution12, or even threaten, privately, to raise the good old secret 5 Way Agreement. 

I'm pretty certain that Celtic could, if they so wished, end the Great Lie and finish off, not only TRFC, but also all those who aided and abetted them while involved in the game's governance in 2012 and for some time before and after. They could also just threaten to raise Financial Fair Play with UEFA showing how TRFC signed players they couldn't afford (even after they'd posted such disastrous, touch and go UEFA compliant, Accounts) that enabled them to go so far in the UEFA Cup.

It certainly appears that Celtic have little to fear from TRFC's vindictiveness in terms of honesty and rule breaking, while the opposite is true the other way round, which is why they, TRFC, have had to go after their erstwhile friends at Hampden.


Les Says It is Time to Ask The Audience?
Is there any posters on here that think TRFC's long awaited 'Dossier' was worth the wait, or does everyone agree that every doubt expressed as to the likelihood of it containing any 'smoking gun' evidence was right on the money?

I've not read it, and never will, but every critique I've read so far makes it clear that no one has found anything in it that should worry the two named SPFL board members, or anyone else involved (other than Stewart Robertson, TRFC's own man) and that it's nothing more than, at best, a list of questions to be answered, if anyone has the time.

Most notably, the distinct lack of any suggestion of 'bullying', far and away the most serious of the 'leaked' allegations, appears to be missing.

I have to say, though, that in my distrust of the game's governors I am a tad disappointed in it's patheticness*, as a can of worms once opened is very difficult to close, allowing more worms out that may at first have been sought. Anyone else feel the same way?

*Not an actual word, maybe, but then TRFC are not actually the club they claim to be either, so it's alright, see!


Les Says It is Time to Ask The Audience?
Tweet from Graham Spiers

"Key part of Rangers’ accusatory statement of April 11: “bullying”. That is a very serious allegation about #SPFL governance. I’m wading through this RFC “dossier” trying to find evidence of “bullying” but haven’t found it yet. But give it time."

I'm sure page 200 will provide the smoking gun and it will take some time for all who have the dossier to reach mail


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