Gilt-Edged Justice


Captain Haddock says: Tuesday, March 12, 2013 at 01:13 Whullie says, …

Comment on Gilt-Edged Justice by Auldheid.

Captain Haddock says:

Tuesday, March 12, 2013 at 01:13

Whullie says,
I agree that Auldheid/TSFM whistleblower draft should be circulated to our email addresses to allow us all to send a copy, (possibly individualised by anyone if preferred), or even just posted as a blog if emailing is too onerous.

The latter is the plan with encouragement to do as you suggest, preferably individualised.

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HirsutePursuit says:

Monday, March 11, 2013 at 16:31

If and by the time the UTT rules and if it rules in HMRC’s favour the whole sham will have been exposed for what it was but by then I doubt anyone will care.

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There was some discussion the other day on the future direction of TSFM.

One of my thoughts was that in keeping with the blog title we should try and establish ourselves as the guards who watch the guards.

Had the SFA followed and properly policed their own rules we would not be looking at the footballing field of devastation that we now are because no one was watching the guards (the SFA).

Stewart Regan a few weeks back in response to the Question of Trust Blog came out with the eye brow raising statement that the SFA had no power over the Leagues. Nobody main stream really picked up on this surprising statement but that itself is no surprise. Lack of regulation enables misregulation or cheating if you like.

However whilst Mr Regan may be right in terms of the SFA do not have any power over the leagues (which is surely something that needs to be addressed constitutionally) the SFA definitely have power over clubs.

The instrument of this power is club licensing. For SPL clubs the UEFA FFP Licensing regime applies not just to get a licence to play in Europe, but also to get a licence to play in Scotland. For clubs in the SFL, National Club Licensing rules apply (although it will be interesting to see if two sets are used once the SPL and SFL merge).

Regardless of what licensing regime is applied the ability to award or withold a licence or award one conditionally gives the SFA the kind of power over clubs to make sure they act responsibly and sustainably, indeed that should be the main bloody purpose of club licensing if it not already is.

I would argue that the supporters of every club should be able to see what the licensing criteria are and if there club is meeting them. Now the SFA in the latest licensing rules have made a welcome change in terms of providing certain information to the public that in the past was treated as confidential, but unless folk are aware of a) the rules and b) if their club meet the criteria then the change, welcome as it is, will not have much of an impact.

So I’m suggesting that TSFM has a page that links to both UEFA Licensing Rules and National Club licensing rules as well as SFA and SPL Articles, that those with the experience of interpretation can read and question against what their clubs are telling the SFA and what the SFA are doing with what they are told and highlighting any questionable granting of a licence.

The opportunity to test out this approach is now upon us. Clubs have to submit licensing information to the SFA by 30th April for SFL clubs and (from memory 31st March for SPL clubs).

It is perhaps unfortuneate that this monitoring might focus on one club initially (The Rangers) because exceptional dispensation might be required to grant them a licence in the absence of historical accounts, but at least the grounds on which one is granted, can be questioned once The Rangers current accounts are published.

However Rangers supporters themselves should want to know that the SFA are doing their job in protecting them from another insolvency or administration event in the next two seasons, so this is not a suggestion to get at the Rangers but one to help them not fall foul of what has happened before.

There are lots of criteria to be met but the most important surrounds finance on which sustainability depends so there might not be as much rule sifting to do as one might imagine.

If TSFM develops expertise in understanding and articulating the licensing process then it will be the go to place for honest msm journalists who can then raise any issue we raise in a more public arena. In that scenario, knowing that they are being observed the guards might guard a lot better than they did in the past and in an odd way finally become accountable.


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ecobhoy says:

Monday, March 11, 2013 at 12:17

I knew what I meant when I wrote what I wrote but reckon that what I wrote is not exactly what I meant and I’m glad we got that out of the way. 🙂

The reason I mention FIFA is that they have opened up a Whistleblower site that I reckon allows the SFA to be by passed because they will not answer anyway.

I’ve given tsfm a draft to consider to be submitted from tsfm to the FIFA site as it is in keeping with the name of the blog and we have many readers. He’s been busy but something will surface in due course.

I was very interested in what you wrote on LNS in case I found anything that changed the draft I did on Friday, but as it was based on what do FIFA make of what LNS means for their rules, (and potential conflict of interest) as opposed to how LNS arrived at his findings I was happy to leave the draft as is. It is only by taking everyone’s views on board that key issues can be focussed on and, like yourself, the older I get the less I know that I know, so seek out other folk’s thoughts.

I’ll let tsfm do his stuff on the draft and suggested approach but I know of at least three submissions to FIFA via that web site and the more that go in the harder it becomes to ignore.

I reckon the SFA have blundered in their strategy, twisting football rules to such an extent to reach their desired outcome that FIFA will either have to back them up or inform them they are wrong. Doing and saying nothing is not an option if FIFA are honest about the intent of their Whistleblower web site.

On sporting advantage I take your point but I am sure the Neil Warnock sporting advantage argument re Leicester City that preceded the ten points deduction rule could be used to say that as well as clubs entering administration clubs breaking rules in a consistent way are deemed to have done so to gain sporting advantage and make it automatic that trophies/titles will be removed. That should deter cheaters.

The more you look at this the more the SFA are twisting football integrity in knots. FIFA’s attention has to be drawn to their behaviour.

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Dons/Hibees/Jambos and any other club wanting a UEFA spot.
Flogging players who have put TRFC near top of league is an admission those players unaffordable.
The solution is to make a licence for TRFC conditional on a realistic sustainable business plan. SFA are not doing their licencing job. Never have in fact.
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I got my electronic copy of Not The View delivered yesterday.
Browsing through I thought I recognised The Christmas Tale offering and was pleased to read it as I had forgotten it was a tale I told at Christmas in 2012 (on CQN I think).
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Ah jist luv fitbaw.
Its funny cos I was never that interested until about age eleven when a good pal, who was destined never to see his 21st birthday after a car crash in Rome encouraged me to try it. John was there to become a priest but got fast tracked by the Big Man who knows a good guy when he sees wan.
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I remember wan night  at the Glasgow Green waiting to play for St Alphonsus v Our Lady of Fatima  when I saw Tony Green, who was a Mungo boy and went on to play for Newcastle and Scotland before injury ended his career too early, waiting, sannies under his arm, to get a game with any team who were a man short. I think the OLOF manager mugged wan of his boys as Tony appeared for them and turned a virtuoso performance against us to give OLOF a 3-2 victory.
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I get directions fur a game oan the Saturday at Acton Town and turn up, new Puma boots, paid by my transfer grant, under my arm (nae sannies fur me) On entering the park ahm puzzled, there wiz GRASS everywhere, nae clinker or red blaze in sight.  “Must be roon the back of the dressing rooms “ I remember thinking.
Anyhoo I gets changed runs roon the back to see — MAIR grass as far as the eye can see. So I troop back tae the dressing rooms to get directions to the ash pitches. When I explain what ah wiz used to playin oan they aw jist looked at me like my village wiz searching fur their idiot.
Well I get sorted out and line up. The baw, I remember, wiz a size 5 orange wan, but no wan o they bricks wi laces. The first pass to me wiz high and ah chests the ball doon and whirls roon afore I get studded from the back as wiz the custom oan the narrow pitches of Glasgow Green. To ma amazement the nearest opponent to me is about 4 yards away. As I look into his eyes I smile and turn to Jock at the sidelines and shout.
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That Dave King is allowed any influence in Scottiish football is a dereliction of the duty of the SFA to protect our game from criminality.

Dave King should be called to account by the other clubs via the SFA to provide evidence he can do what he has promised, which is bank roll TRFC.

At the very least the clubs should be preparing for another insolvency event at Ibrox and deciding the conditions they will set for TRFC to continue taking part in Scottish football on the same basis as every other club, who act with the utmost good faith to fellow members.

The clubs via the SFA have the powers under Club Licensing to do so, powers that the SFA Comp Off can only conclude the SFA have failed to utilise. Powers that UEFA must have recognised by now as a result of Res12 letter of May 2016 and UEFA Licence submission this year, are not being used fully by the SFA.  

It was self preservation that underpinned the 5 Way Agreement . The dangers of that agreement – destroying integrity, undermining trust, ignoring deceit – become more and more manifest and should alert other clubs to the necessity to exercise their collective responsibility to each other and so to our game that they govern via the SFA on our behalf, using Club Licensing powers.

When a particular course of action designed to preserve self is not working it is human nature to try another course.

Not renewing STs come April/May unless positive trust restoring actions are taken by our clubs collectively, is one way of changing minds about what is self preserving.

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