The Continuing Voyage of Scottish Football – and the Wrath of Khan


Smallteaser says: August 23, 2012 at 14:29 —- Haywire says: August 23, 2012 …

Comment on The Continuing Voyage of Scottish Football – and the Wrath of Khan by Haywire.

smallteaser says:
August 23, 2012 at 14:29
Haywire says:
August 23, 2012 at 14:06
My tongue was inserted in my cheek when posting.

Fairy Nuff, Smallteaser. You certainly teased me there! From my post you may have deduced that I am still significantly teased off with Mr. Johnston’s “fair” approach. He didn’t take the Killie fans to the fair; he took them to the cleaners! In future, please do appropriate smiley to indicate when you are in tongue in cheek mode! My keyboard will not survive another diatribe from me.

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The Continuing Voyage of Scottish Football – and the Wrath of Khan
smallteaser says:
August 23, 2012 at 12:59

Michael Johnston of Kilmarnock has always been fair, his one solitary vote was the opposite of every other club in the league.


Smallteaser, I wonder what you mean by “fair”. Mr. Johnston asked for the Killie fans’ views on the “Sevco to be sledged into SPL” vote. He left his appeal for comment until it was realistically too late for most folk to reply. He then insulted Killie fans’ intelligence by stating that he abstained in the SPL vote because only 36% of those entitled to vote in the Killie survey (shareholders/season ticket holders) had voted against the proposal, but then refused to say how many had voted for it! He added insult to injury by not even indicating how many had actually voted in total! That sounds eminently “fair” to me. You may also not be amazed to hear that all the paperwork associated with the vote has since been destroyed. I suggest that you check with the Electoral Reform Society regarding whether they would regard this as a “fair” voting process.

I do not want to infer anything from the set of events outlined above. I leave it to all “fair” minded people to construe what they will.

Some little while later, and after a Chester v. Killie pre-season friendly, I understand that Mr. Johnston’s car was chased away from the stadium by a very vocal selection of the Killie “minority”.

On a much more positive note, and probably not unrelated to the above abuse of process, The Killie Supporters’ Trust is currently engaged in a project which will hopefully result in Community Ownership of Kilmarnock Football Club. I would ask that all true (and properly fair-minded) Scottish Football supporters give this plan their backing, whatever form that backing might take.

The Continuing Voyage of Scottish Football – and the Wrath of Khan
Jack Kool says:
August 20, 2012 at 12:28

I have read this blog and RTC since this whole saga/debacle/nonsense began however this is my first post.


Jack, I can assure you that I am no Celtic supporter – anything but! However, I am a bit stunned that you feel that the blog is tending towards being anti your team. I have posted very infrequently, partly because it was so difficult to tread throught the minefield to get something on RTC. Having said that, it was probably a good thing that I was not able to post on occasion. I struggle to find the words to describe how I feel about the way in which the whole situation has been “managed” by the powers that be. The way in which Mr. Green and Mr. McCoist (I am being deliberately low key in how I refer to these individuals) have behaved in the last month or two is reminiscent of the North Korean handbook on how to ensure that black is regarded as white.

These two gentlemen have attacked institutions which have bent over backwards to avoid applying their own rules to deal with a rogue member.

In a word, your “team” are Anathema!

The one small positive aspect I take from your post is the fact that you refer to yourself as non-religious – not that religion has anything to do with Sevco or its rabid predecessor.

The Continuing Voyage of Scottish Football – and the Wrath of Khan
Excellent! More power to your (writing) elbow.

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September 5, 2012 at 21:48

I think you picked up my sentiment wrong.


You’ve done it again! You are just toooo subtle!

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smallteaser says:
August 23, 2012 at 18:53

Haywire says:
August 23, 2012 at 18:02

Fairy Nuff, Smallteaser. .
The gist of the post was that the removal of Old Firm reps would lead to a fairer SFA, I doubt it.
You end up with a gang of X against Celtic and any decisions would be seen as that by the fan.
The key thing for a fairer (back to “fair” again!) SFA, in my opinion, would be far more transparency by the body in question, as well as actually implementing, without fear or favour, its own Rules.

Now I have had the odd problem with Celtic supporters in the past, over a number of years, so I don’t want this to sound like a Killie/Celtic love in, but I have to say that I was quite impressed by the response of the Celtic support after the League Cup Final. My daughter and I queued for the train at Mount Florida with a number of Celtic supporters who were reasonably philosophical about the result.

This was in stark contrast to a number of middle aged, shaven headed and nominally “Killie” supporters who were in the row in front of us during the game. Their behaviour and demeanour was deplorable, and they were obviously there to see Celtic beaten, rather than to see Killie win. Needless to say, they had some difficulty with the Killie team’s names!

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Hoopy 7 says:
August 8, 2012 at 10:39

On the question of the direction of the blog, it is finding its feet and in due course the gift that keeps on giving will provide plenty of topics upon which we can focus. No need to panic yet.

To kick it off how about a list of the Rules that the SFA/SPL have ignored to get Sevco in the door

Now that sounds to me like a very practical good idea. I would be pleased to see same and start asking a few pertinent questions of the authorities regarding the contents.

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