Good Evening.
As we ponder the historic vote to create a new Governing body to oversee Scottish League football, I cannot help but wonder what brilliant minds will be employed in the drawing up of its constitution, rules, memorandum and articles of association?
Clearly, Messrs Doncaster, Longmuir and even Mr Regan as the CEO of the SFA will be spending many hours with those dreaded folk known simply as “ The Lawyers” in an attempt to get the whole thing up and running and written down in the course of a few short weeks.
In truth, that scares me.
It scares me because legal documentation written up in a hurry or in a rush is seldom perfect and often needs amendment—especially when the errors start to show! The old adage of beware of the busy fool sadly applies.
It also scares me because the existing rules under which the game is governed are not, in my humble opinion, particularly well written and seem to differ in certain material respects from those of UEFA. Even then, adopting the wording and the approach of other bodies is not necessarily the way to go.
I am all in favour of some original thought– and that most precious and unusual of commodities known as common sense and plain English.
Further, the various licensing and compliance rules are clearly in need of an overhaul as they have of late produced what can only be best described as a lack of clarity when studied for the purposes of interpretation. Either that or those doing the studying and interpreting are afflicted with what might be described as tortuous or even tortured legal and administrative minds.
If it is not by now clear that the notion of self-certification on financial and other essential disclosure criteria necessary to obtain a footballing licence (whether European or domestic) is a total non-starter — then those in charge of the game are truly bonkers.
Whilst no governing body can wholly control the actions of a member club, or those who run a club, surely provisions can be inserted into any constitution or set of rules that allows and brings about greater vigilance and scrutiny than we have at present—all of course designed to do nothing other than alert the authorities as early as possible if matters are not being conducted properly or fairly.
However, the main change that would make a difference to most of the folk involved in the Scottish game – namely the fans— would be to have the new rules incorporate a measure which allowed football fans themselves to be represented on any executive or committee.
Clearly, this would be a somewhat revolutionary step and would be fought against tooth and nail by some for no reason other than that it has simply not been done before—especially as the league body is there to regulate the affairs of a number of limited companies all of whom have shareholders to account to and the clubs themselves would presumably be the shareholders in the new SPFL Ltd.
Then again to my knowledge Neil Doncaster is not a shareholder in The SPL ltd– is he?
I can hear the argument that a fan representative on a league body might not be impartial, might be unprofessional, might be biased, might lack knowledge or experience, and have their own agenda and so on—just like many chairmen and chief executive officers who already sit on the committees of the existing league bodies.
Remember too that the SFA until relatively recently had disciplinary committees made up almost exclusively of referees. I don’t think anyone would argue that the widening of the make up of that committee has been a backward step.
However, we already have fan representation at clubs like St Mirren and Motherwell, and of course there has been an established Tartan Army body for some time now. Clubs other than the two mentioned above have mechanisms whereby they communicate and consult with fans, although they stop short of full fan participation– very often for supposedly insurmountable legal reasons.
As often as not, the fans want a say in the running of their club, but also want to be able to make representations to the governing bodies via their club.
So why not include the fans directly in the new set up for governing the league?
Any fan representative could be someone proposed by a properly registered fan body such as through official supporters clubs, or could be seconded by the clubs acting in concert with their supporters clubs.
Perhaps a committee of fan representatives could be created, with such a committee having a representative on the various committees of the new league body.
In this way, there would be a fan who could report back to the fan committee and who could represent the interests of the ordinary fan in the street in any of the committees. Equally such a committee of fans could ensure that any behind the scenes discussions on any issue were properly reported, openly discussed, and made public with no fear of hidden agendas, secret meetings, and secret collusive agreements and so forth.
Is any of that unreasonable? Surely many companies consider the views of their biggest customer? This idea is no different.
Surely such a situation would go some way towards establishing some badly needed trust between the governing bodies and the fans themselves?
If necessary, I would not even object to the fan representatives being excluded from having a right to vote on certain matters—as long as they had a full right of audience and a full right of access to all discussions and relative papers which affect the running of the game.
In this way at least there would be openness and transparency.
In short, it would be a move towards what is quaintly referred to as Democracy.
Perhaps, those who run the game at present should consider the life and times of the late great Alexander Hamilton- one of the founding fathers of the United States of America and who played a significant role in helping write the constitution of that country.
Hamilton was a decent and brilliant man in many ways—but he was dead set against Democracy and the liberation of rights for the masses. In fact, he stated that the best that can be hoped for the mass populace is that they be properly armed with a gun and so able to protect themselves against injustice!
Sadly, Hamilton became embroiled in a bitter dispute with the then Vice President of the nation Aaron Burr in July 1804. Hamilton had used his influence and ensured that Burr lost the election to become Governor of New York and had made some withering attacks on the Vice President’s character.
When he refused to apologise, the Vice President took a whacky notion and challenged him to a duel! Even more whacky is the fact that Hamilton accepted the challenge and so the contest took place at Weehawken New Jersey on the morning of 11th July 1804.
The night before, Hamilton wrote a letter which heavily suggested that he would contrive to miss Burr with his shot, and indeed when the pistols fired Hamilton’s bullet struck a branch immediately above Burr’s head.
However, he did not follow the proper procedure for duelling which required a warning from the duellist that they are going to throw their shot away. Hamilton gave no such indication despite the terms of his letter and despite his shot clearly missing his opponent.
Burr however fired and hit Hamilton in the lower abdomen with the result that the former secretary to the treasury and founding father of the constitution died at 2pm on the twelfth of July.
The incident ruined Burr’s career (whilst duelling was still technically legal in New jersey, it had already been outlawed in various other states).
In any event, in Hamilton’s time full and open democracy in the United States of America would have met with many cries of outrage and bitter opposition. Yet, today, the descendants of slaves and everyone from all social standings, all ethnic minorities and every social background has the constitutional right to vote and seek entry to corridors of power.
In that light, is it really asking too much to allow football fans to have a say and a presence in the running of a game they pay so much to support?
Gaz says:
July 7, 2013 at 9:03 am
Not picking fault with your argument, but unless I’ve missed something, it’s not Hearts who have introduced the newco idea but their joint administrator, Trevor Birch. As has been stated by some on here and elsewhere, the Hearts administration is being conducted properly with no, or very little, comment or input from ‘Hearts’ men, unlike the old Gers scenario where all and sundry were banging whatever drum they could find to turn public opinion in RFC’s favour with their MSM aided propaganda. I do, however, agree with what you say regarding the ‘newco’ route and that it was an invention to facilitate the wool pulling over eyes that was so prominent in the liquidation of RFC. I expect Trevor Birch is just doing his job properly and trying to encourage those interested in buying the club to up the ante to actually avoid ‘the newco’ route. I’m quite sure that from BDO’s perspective, a good, clean, successful administration of a Scottish football club would be a rather large feather in their cap so soon after the farce that D&P carried out. I suspect, and this is only my thoughts 💡 (see what I did there? using the new fangled thingys) he could be highlighting the pitfalls of trying to come through liquidation and maybe preparing the way for a sale of the club, without the fixed assets (Tynecastle). If Hearts can’t be sold under a CVA with Tynecastle, I’d much rather they were sold as part of a CVA without Tynecastle, with the creditors prepared to accept whatever can be raised in the sale of the stadium. Birch might just be trying to encourage at least one of the interested parties to accept this scenario. A number of things stopped RFC accepting this idea; bears wouldn’t accept loss of Ibrox, renting a ground big enough (Hampden) would have been too costly, and, the killer: decisions yet to follow over BTC and all their cheating would still be attached to the ‘saved’ club.
Maybe wishful thinking on my part but I think Hearts, and Dunfermline, are in much better positions than RFC were, despite their ludicrous debts, as both can be sold separately from their grounds because they don’t carry the same ‘baggage’ as RFC did, and would continue with only points deductions and fines to contend with without the fear of unknown liabilities to come.
For the record, my stance on the newclub/oldclub debate remains the same – liquidation ends the club 🙁 , no matter how it’s painted.
Paul McConville @Paulmcc12 59m
Whatever Happened to the Rangers EGM To Appoint Easdale and Sack Murray? Now Green Wants One! http://wp.me/p1Adbc-ZR
Allyjambo says:
July 7, 2013 at 11:46 am
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No argument with any of that.
I think Hearts still can be saved and I think that BDO are trying to do it properly. As you say it really all does depend on the support being willing to accept the reality of the situation and accept what needs to be done to keep their club alive.
Sam says:
July 7, 2013 at 11:41 am
‘Probs at Villa Bel Azur..’
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I would book the first fortnight in August, but the one euro 50 cents per person per night taxe de sejour just puts it out of my budget range ! 🙂
torrejohnbhoy(@johnbhoy1958) says:
July 7, 2013 at 11:47 am
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Simply ain’t gonna happen …… trying to look after his own (non)-investment rather than others real investment … leopard and spots come to mind …
#CharlesGreed(n)
Just checking twitter and found this.Apologies if posted before:
waitinfurrapolis @corsica1968 5 Jul
It’s late & I’m tired so full analysis needs to wait but just got OSCR email re #rangerscharitytheft. Info held back in public interest?Hmmm
I’ve always thought
Green & Whyte = King
Aye/Naw
Gaz says:
July 7, 2013 at 12:01 pm
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Allyjambo says:
July 7, 2013 at 11:46 am
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I think Hearts still can be saved and I think that BDO are trying to do it properly. As you say it really all does depend on the support being willing to accept the reality of the situation and accept what needs to be done to keep their club alive.
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Fisrtly, apologies for use of placed and secondly, I too am of the liquidation kills the club school, however, I am troubled by one thing in the Hearts situation. It would appear that because of the main shareholder (UBIG?) being in administration, that this is making it hard to address the issue of how to purchase the shares and indeed, how to conclude a CVA for HoM within a time scale that allows football to continue at Tynecastle. Leaving aside that the laws/rules effectively preclude it (both company and footballing are clear on this), is there a moral argument that would allow the transfer of the SFA membership to a new company in the same way that would occur if someone bought the club outright?
On the face of it, this situation appears significantly different from the Sevco one and while I appreciate that rules should be applied without fear or favour, one wee part of me thinks that this is actually a time when an exception should be made, however, it should be done openly and transparently with input from all parties.
I realise that this is probably an unpopular perspective but surely it is important to look at the “moral” side of things before blindly following the letter of the law (not that the Scottish footballing authorities could ever be accused of that mind)?
Castofthousands says:
July 7, 2013 at 11:04 am
Gaz says:
July 7, 2013 at 8:54 am
“I can understand that, I might not approve of the idea that it is built around hatred of others and a sense of superiority over others. It is horrendous and puerile but I do understand it.”
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To get all psychological, I think its a symptom of self loathing. By externalising the bad feelings and projecting them onto others they are briefly freed from their internal turmoil. We all suffer spasms of doubt and question what we should be doing with our lives. It is part of a natural condition. Externalising such feelings means you never actually deal with the issues you should be facing up to. You can pretend everything is okay. Then a huge calamity strikes that you are completely ill-equipped to deal with
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From my experience, there is a need to blame others for the situation you are in, especially if you are unhappy.
When I was 14, my parents were told by my English schoolteacher at a formal PT night, that “although I was a very bright boy, I had ambitions way beyond my station in life”. My parents who never questioned authority in any way thought I should take her advice and cut my lofty ambitions of wanting to go to university and getting into business. I declined to do so.
I emigrated 20 odd years ago – when I return, many friends/family members are uncomfortable with me – not because I show off my new life etc but because they realize they too could have done the same thing – but instead chose to go with the plan and see how it all panned out – while they complain about life’s unfairness.
The marchers yesterday need to have someone to blame for their ills – they have chosen a religious denomination as their target.
The British establishment in order to keep their empire afloat with minimum fuss to them did a divide and conquer policy. It means you have the folks fighting each other so that they don’t unite against you.
In the same way, we divided and caused the India/Pakistan conflict, we also gave power to one tribe over others causing issues in Africa.
The marchers yesterday are part of that divide and conquer policy – if only they would question what they have got out of the deal so far…………
May be OT but the establishment is one of the major shareholders behind the current TRFC nonsense……
torrejohnbhoy(@johnbhoy1958) says:
July 7, 2013 at 12:17 pm
‘.waitinfurrapolis @corsica1968 5 Jul
It’s late & I’m tired so full analysis needs to wait but just got OSCR email re #rangerscharitytheft. Info held back in public interest?Hmmm”
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Whit??
This is news to me ( confound this proliferation of means of communication. Canny be arsed switching fae one to the other!)
SDM – Tax Evaderer Magnifique
“In the summer of 2005, I came across an opportunity to purchase a dilapidated Villa ‘Bel Azur’
The company needed finance in order to be able to undertake the project. With my help and that of David Horne and Ian MacMillan the company arranged investment finance for the project by way of a loan from the Bank of Scotland to purchase and develop the property.
Bank of Scotland requested security for the loan. The simplest and cheapest method of satisfying the bank’s requirement for security was for me to guarantee the loan which they were to make to Bel Azur Properties Sarl.
I was comfortable with the idea of providing the guarantee because I considered that the loan was covered by the value of the property and also because the beneficiaries of the first sub-trust were members of my family.
Bel Azur Properties Sarl was established by Equity’s Luxembourg office. I recall that the directors and managers of Bel Azur Properties Sarl were also provided by Equity’s Luxembourg office
A. I was involved but it wasn’t just the buying. I then had to get the builder. The reason I knew the
builder — the reason I took the opportunity was I just done up a house in France.
I was sitting there. I had a couple of weeks holiday. I was bored. I was hanging over the wall and saw the house for sale so I decided that I would buy it. I spoke to Ian and Ian said this is a route that you may chose to do. So I already had the tradesmen. I knew what to do.
And the greatest thing you will find about any deals, the ones that are done the quickest are the ones that are normally the most successful. So we had to do it quite quickly. And that’s the route we took. And we found it the best way forward.
A. It was a business opportunity. It was easy to manage because it was next door.
I didn’t have far to go, did I?
It didn’t affect me at all. It was a paint job and windows from the outside. There was no add-ons. They moved the swimming pool from the back garden to the front garden. That was it.
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This is the 5hithole Villa Bel Azur
http://paradizo.com/vacation-rentals/luxury-villa-rentals/villa-bel-azur
I heard last night Sevco are planning to charge £5 on their website to watch all the goals from pre-season friendlies. 500 million x £5 means quite a transfer kitty for McCoist!
The OSCR email is disturbing. The subtext of their assertion that it’s in the Public Interest can only be read as – the ‘Fabric of Scottish Society’ would threaten public safety.
Might has become right.
Other sources suggest that Tanaldi might also have been connected to a Mr. Rafat Ali Rizvi,
The best documented example comes from UK court papers from 2008, which relate to a case in which
a British man was found guilty of falsely claiming an inheritance and holding the proceeds in a British Virgin Islands registered company named Trixilis.
The sole shareholder of Trixilis was Tanaldi Limited
According to the court documents for this case, the defendant was “shown a list of available companies” by a Singaporean firm which specialises in setting up offshore structures, and one was selected.
Full authority to operate the British Virgin Islands registered company through his Swiss bank account.
This allowed the defendant to control the funds without being named at all in official records.
waitinfurrapolis @corsica1968 6 Jul
It’s late & I’m tired so full analysis needs to wait but just got OSCR email re #rangerscharitytheft. Info held back in public interest?Hmmm
The Rodfather The Rodfather @rodfather67 6 Jul
@corsica1968 RFC is not a public body so cannot get public cover. You can challenge via FOI as OSCR is public body. Challenge to define PI.
waitinfurrapolis waitinfurrapolis @corsica1968 6 Jul
@rodfather67 it was FOI request they responded to
The Rodfather The Rodfather @rodfather67 19h
@corsica1968 wee letter to the commissioner asking to define ‘public interest’ in the offing then?
waitinfurrapolis@corsica1968 @rodfather67 Possibly, although quick skim this afternoon made sense (“criminal investigation”). Need to digest properly.
upthehoops says:
July 7, 2013 at 1:45 pm
This must be the ground breaking online media strategy that Jim Traynor, head of communications came up with.
99p for an online tour of a bus.
£5 to see repeats of Rangers score against low level opposition.
Would they not have been better showing the games live, and charging £5 a po. I’m sure there would have been a decent uptake. Especially as all of the games are away from home.
Exiled Celt says:
July 7, 2013 at 2:09 pm
Indeed
If the reply to a FOI request is not satisfactory and it very much seems that way, then the information commissioner can be contacted to intervene. There is a specific one for Scotland as we have our own Act.
http://www.itspublicknowledge.info/home/ScottishInformationCommissioner.aspx
It would be useful if waitinfurrapolis could put OSCR’s reply on here for us all to see.
Sam says:
July 7, 2013 at 2:09 pm
Other sources suggest that Tanaldi might also have been connected to a Mr. Rafat Ali Rizvi,
The best documented example comes from UK court papers from 2008, which relate to a case in which
a British man was found guilty of falsely claiming an inheritance and holding the proceeds in a British Virgin Islands registered company named Trixilis.
The sole shareholder of Trixilis was Tanaldi Limited
According to the court documents for this case, the defendant was “shown a list of available companies” by a Singaporean firm which specialises in setting up offshore structures, and one was selected.
Full authority to operate the British Virgin Islands registered company through his Swiss bank account.
This allowed the defendant to control the funds without being named at all in official records.
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Charlotte Fakeovers @CharlotteFakes 27 Jun
Not 100% sure what’s going on here with this email between Rafat, Charles and Craig. http://i.imgur.com/1Ls2NsJ.jpg
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Union Bancaire Privée is based in Geneva and is one of the major Swiss asset management banks for both private and institutional clients. Its principal aim is the quest for performance and the preservation of its clients’ capital.
If I’m reading it correctly the suggestion is that it would not be in the public interest because of an ongoing criminal investigation.
Always hard to tell with twitter extracts though.
Sam says:
July 7, 2013 at 2:24 pm
You might like this from CJ on KdS:
“The decision to allow Mrs Rizvi to take her convicted man’s place as boss of Tembusu was approved by the firm’s nominated advisers Allenby Capital.
Allenby’s representative at Tembusu? Rangers Director Brian Stockbridge.”
Remember, Tembusu changed its name to Nova Resources and hired Charles Green as Chairman. If you follow Nova’s parent company you’ll end up at Hanseatic & Baltic Properties Asia Pte. Ltd. The rest should be plain sailing.
Sam says:
July 7, 2013 at 2:09 pm
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Gotta keep probing ….
Anything of interest here @Sam …
http://offshoreleaks.icij.org/nodes/55876
nothing quite jumping out at first glance …
Exiled Celt says:
July 7, 2013 at 2:09 pm
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It’s late & I’m tired so full analysis needs to wait but just got OSCR email re #rangerscharitytheft. Info held back in public interest?Hmmm
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The fact that a charitable organisation administered by, or connected to RFC is under investigation for fraud and maladministration should be front page news! Forget the sub judice arguments, the questions can be asked.
Can you confirm or deny ……… It has been reported ………. how do you respond to allegations ………. or the old favourite – ‘The Daily Record has learned ………..
In writing this it has just occurred to me that the headline would be along the lines of ‘Old Firm Charity Shocker’.
Instead we get AMcC deserves a knighthood! Nae wunner the print media is in its death throes.
Exiled Celt
One word covers it.
GUILT!
We all suffer from it and others can use it to manipulate those feeling it.
It comes from knowing you are wrong or did something wrong but that aknowledgement of feet of clay is beyond some. So they justify the wrong by making it right.
Bryson and LNS are great examples. The reaction to the FTT was joy at not being guilty of doing wrong.
There have been many wrongs on both sides since the first major wrong, the one that continues to fester throughout history until it is recognised for what it was – a land grab.
Begin with that and recognising all the consequent wrongs since is a pre-requisite to healing. We appear to be no further forward because admission of wrongdoing carries with it the fear of being engulfed by guilt in the absence of a tradtion of contrition, mercy and forgiveness.
Gaz says:
July 6, 2013 at 11:32 pm
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Den says:
July 6, 2013 at 9:41 pm
In order to qualify for the tax breaks there are limits to the activities they can take part in. Lending money isn’t one of them.
There are also ramifications in relation to VAT, specifically the ability to reclaim input tax.
They advance purchased tickets at a discount.
They also believed that their rights to those tickets survived any insolvency event. It was only when that was argued in the Court of Session that they were told that wasn’t the case in Scotland because the nature of those rights was different in Scotland.
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The ticketus deal was structured to take advantage of the tax breaks and was a bulk purchase of season tickets.
If it was a normal sale from Rangers to Ticketus and subsequently Rangers acting as agents to sell the Tickets then it has some tricky accounting and VAT aspects but nothing insurmountable. This was not a normal business transaction.
The deal could have survived Administration at the discretion of the Administrator. Liquidation is the end.
Just my opinion but Ticketus seemed a bit lax and naive. These are professional people apparently and they don’t see it coming.
Caveat Emptor says:
July 7, 2013 at 3:20 pm
Instead we get AMcC deserves a knighthood!
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Just imagine, SuperAlly up there with the great and good, his reputation secure for all of history! Like David Murray…and..errr…Fred Goodwin…or perhaps any of the assorted fraudsters, perjurers and even the odd dictator on this list
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_revocations_of_appointments_to_orders_and_awarded_decorations_and_medals_of_the_United_Kingdom#KG
Den says:
July 7, 2013 at 4:16 pm
Are you suggesting that professional people don’t make mistakes, or that every legal case is clear cut and open without opposing opinions.
I believe that Octopus / Ticketus, or their advisers made a mistake as far as Scots law was concerned.
Perhaps others involved hoped they would misunderstand how different our jurisdictions were, who knows.
TW says:
July 7, 2013 at 4:20 pm
Caveat Emptor says:
July 7, 2013 at 3:20 pm
Instead we get AMcC deserves a knighthood!
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I would vote for that, to me he deserves his knighthood every bit as much as Sir David Murray.
#Epic
Simply teh most Awesome final game and set in the History of Wimbledon ….. #SuperMurray
Sir Andy… ?
That’s the sports personality of the year sorted.
@scottishFA
TAKE HEED ……
All of Scotland are walking TALL & PROUD tonight ….
Now step up to the Mark …. Do the Right Thing ….
Signed
newtz
Tomorrow would be a good day to bury any bad sports/business news. 😉
torrejohnbhoy(@johnbhoy1958) says:
July 7, 2013 at 11:47 am
“Whatever Happened to the Rangers EGM To Appoint Easdale and Sack Murray?”
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Oil tycoon I can beleive. Steel tycoon is plausible. Bus tycoon?
How many buses does it take to constitute a tycoon.
McGill’s turnover was £15M last year and they posted a loss. Owners of such companies are comfortably off at best. Tycoon? Be serious.
https://www.duedil.com/company/SC027238/mcgill-s-bus-service-limited/financials
Exiled Celt says:
July 7, 2013 at 12:31 pm
“The marchers yesterday are part of that divide and conquer policy – if only they would question what they have got out of the deal so far…………”
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Nail; head; hit; on.
Castofthousands says:
July 7, 2013 at 7:12 pm
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Small World part 1690:
How many of McGill’s buses were bought off (-S)DM’s Alexander Dennis Company?
Was Peter Watson at Levy & McRae (currently in business at Vicast with bloo Knight Paul Murray and (-S)DM’s right-hand man at old Rangers, Martin Bain, counsel to McGill’s recently?
Was it he same Peter Watson who was instructed by Sir David Murray to submit a complaint to the Crown Office regarding the publication of information relating to his tax affairs?
And did Jack Irvine, who’s Children’s trust fund is run by Watson, handle the McGill’s announcement?
Phils latest:
July 7th2013
Sevco and Cenkos
By: Phil Mac Giolla Bhain (published July 7th, 2013 at 7:51 pm)
There is usually a major post mortem when big finance companies part company with clients.
However, as Cenkos prepare to part company with Rangers International Football Club plc there may be huge sighs of relief from all in Cenkos’ plush Tokenhouse Yard offices in London town.
There were many murmurings of discontent from the city movers and shakers within the Cenkos boardroom.
Working with the colourful Charles Green was always going to be a challenging journey.
Looking at Cenkos’ website, they state that the IPO for Rangers International Football Club plc raised a figure of £22.5 million.
Really?
Looking after Sevco’s interests in the near – and that could become a vital word – future will be Daniel Stewart and Company, a less high profile company based in Old Jewry.
One wonders how the Daniel Stewart team will cope with the next few months.
Meanwhile, as the Sevco’s spin doctor-in-chief settles in to his Florida holiday hide-away, one wonders how they will explain James Easdale joining the board.
Perhaps that awkward task is the reason Mr Traynor is away to the Sunshine State to enjoy sundowners with his old journalistic buddy Darrell King, who now resides and works in Florida.
The Blessed Cardigan will be put in a corner this week when he agrees to rubber-stamp Mr Easdale’s position on the board, especially when both Easdale brothers, James and Sandy, have been telling all and sundry that the wage packages for the senior football management team are intolerable and about to change dramatically.
Has the chairman, who is a great champion for the dignity of the club, forgotten his foul-mouthed rant at Chick Young, when dignity went flying out the window?
How will he cope with James Easdale on the board after telling everyone that if either of the brothers got on the board he would do walking away?
Charlie Green’s wee pal Imran Ahmad has been briefing like mad against Malcolm Murray and don’t forget the club’s largest shareholder is still plotting in the background.
In truth, the only thing in running order down Govan way is the new club bus!
Gaz says:
July 7, 2013 at 6:11 pm
That’s the sports personality of the year sorted.
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Don’t want to rain on any ones parade but it’s still 77 years since an Englishman won Wimbledon 😆
Sam Says
June 29 at 12:54pm
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Rizvi mentioned Greenland Ltd is connected to him …….
So here’s the connection through Tanaldi to Greenland
http://offshoreleaks.icij.org/nodes/165119
@Sam …. do you have a link to the original 2010 article you seen this ….
I know he’ll make a fortune but this is great:
Alex O’Henley @OHenleyAlex 1m
Brilliant gesture by @andy_murray to donate his £1,600,000 prize money to the cancer research and care unit at the Royal Marsden Hospital.
torrejohnbhoy(@johnbhoy1958) says:
July 7, 2013 at 7:57 pm
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@Phil Mac Giolla Bhain
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sounds a bit like when a certain Trust wanted to (at least) look like they were acting in compliance, that RFC (Oldco) decided that they would change to a more compliant one …. just saying like !
#TridentTrust
#PoonWasRight
Paul Hayward @_PaulHayward 9m
Just bumped into Andy Murray and asked him whether it’s correct he’s donating his entire prize-money to Royal Marsden. Not correct.
Retweeted by John MacLean
ForresDee says:
July 7, 2013 at 8:27 pm
Paul Hayward @_PaulHayward 9m
Just bumped into Andy Murray and asked him whether it’s correct he’s donating his entire prize-money to Royal Marsden. Not correct.
Retweeted by John MacLean
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Journalist now re-tracting his story.
Pity,
newtz says:
July 7, 2013 at 8:26 pm
torrejohnbhoy(@johnbhoy1958) says:
July 7, 2013 at 7:57 pm
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@Phil Mac Giolla Bhain
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sounds a bit like when a certain Trust wanted to (at least) look like they were acting in compliance, that RFC (Oldco) decided that they would change to a more compliant one …. just saying like !
#TridentTrust
#PoonWasRight
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Newtz,
This doesn’t surprise me.The links between Cenkos and Allenby/Zeus whoever were documented before the IPO.as the spivs are bailing out,Cenkos will also.I’d like to know who chose the new Nomads and secondly,why have they taken the gig?.
torrejohnbhoy(@johnbhoy1958)
In future please just post a link.
My tech people are working on the site and C&P should be disabled.
There is a reason that it usually is…
If you like what I do then visit the site and direct people there.
Thanks
Phil MacGiollaBhain (@Pmacgiollabhain) says:
July 7, 2013 at 9:08 pm
torrejohnbhoy(@johnbhoy1958)
In future please just post a link.
My tech people are working on the site and C&P should be disabled.
There is a reason that it usually is…
If you like what I do then visit the site and direct people there.
Thanks
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@Phil MGB
…… Looking after Sevco’s interests in the near – and that could become a vital word – future will be Daniel Stewart and Company, a less high profile company based in Old Jewry
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seem a rather small setup …..
Peter Shea – Chairman & Chief Executive Officer
Stuart Lucas – Non Executive Director
Peter Dicks – Senior Independent Director
Stuart Lucas – Non Executive Director
Until recently Stuart was a Managing Director with Nomura International plc, London. Within its Global Markets division he was responsible for Cross Border Asset Trading within Fixed Income …..
Whoooa …. Stop ….. Rewind ……… with Nomura International plc
OK, so who’s gonna go there first ………… Sam ….. SAM …… I think the Rizvi trail just hotted up
Any connection to Nomura Holding ????
@Phil …. I hope your not just on a wind-up 😯
TallBoy Poppy,
Don’t often post but the Alexander Dennis thing hit a chord – they were bailed out by the Scottish Government – Murray and Groshart (and from memory I’m sure that Quayle Munro were in the mix) benefitted from grants etc. if there is a link to McGills it would be very very interesting. Round and round the garden …..
Same names same ex-Football team same smell of corruption!
Well done big Andy and a Hibbee too!
DavieL
I’m Blown Away ………….
Daniel Stewart appointed as NOMAD & Broker to Nova Resources Plc
11 January 2012
Nova Resources Plc (NOVA.L) announces the appointment of Daniel Stewart and Company plc as the Company’s NOMAD and broker
someone tell me I’m wrong ……. OMG … 😯
@eco ….
ORLIT anyone … 😀
newtz says:
July 7, 2013 at 9:15 pm
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Not so sure about the Nomura connection. Even I ‘ve got a pal who’s worked for them.
I wonder if Louisiana State Police still have that outstanding warrant for Mr Dicks, though. illegal interstate gambling, I believe. 😛
TallBoy Poppy (@TallBoyPoppy) says:
July 7, 2013 at 10:01 pm
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see …
Sam says June 29 at 2:23pm …. also 3:24pm
Also I have sight of connection through Nomura Group structure, but …..
See Nova Resources link above ….. ?
Interesting aside ….. I know a Mr Nomura san of Tokyo with strong family banking links, but stronger Nikon links ….. also no connection (have checked).
@newtz
Go to the top of the class…
Sam says:
July 7, 2013 at 2:24 pm
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Union Bancaire Privée is based in Geneva and is one of the major Swiss asset management banks for both private and institutional clients. Its principal aim is the quest for performance and the preservation of its clients’ capital.
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@Sam ….. UBP have concrete links to BVI offshore through good old Potcullis Trustnet (The Muppets who threaten once they find they have been Rumbled …. #Muppets
See ICIJ database …
Phil MacGiollaBhain (@Pmacgiollabhain) says:
July 7, 2013 at 10:53 pm
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Thks ….. Do I get you to sign my (pre-ordered) Downfall, and kept pristine for such occasion ?
@newtz
No problems-happy to do that for you.
Contact my publisher-he handles that stuff.
Gaz says:
July 7, 2013 at 4:26 pm
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Den says:
July 7, 2013 at 4:16 pm
Are you suggesting that professional people don’t make mistakes, or that every legal case is clear cut and open without opposing opinions.
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Didn’t suggest that at all.
DavieL says:
July 7, 2013 at 9:34 pm
TallBoy Poppy,
Don’t often post but the Alexander Dennis thing hit a chord – wasn’t there scandal attached?
Another Murray scandal coming soon. Just need to line up the facts.
http://www.saveourglen.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/12/murray-tucks-away-15-m.pdf
Nice profit. Any legal issues arising from that one? The accounting was first class so the buyer paid a fair price!!!
Duplesis says:
July 6, 2013 at 5:11 pm
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Just catching up after a few days away.
It is probably an academic point now; but I stick with my general view that the administrators have no power to terminate a contract if the insolvent company is not being wound up – and it is up to the solvent party how or if to seek remedy when a breach occurs.
While the insolvent company is in administration, the administrators can refuse to perform the terms of the contract; but once the administration period is over and the company is trading normally again, it will still be bound to contracts that existed prior to administration and have not been rescinded by the party who has suffered the breach.
Up till your last post I have been pretty solid in thinking that any damages Ticketus will have claimed in the CVA would have been limited to the income due from season 2012/13 – if they made any claim at all.
Even with an accepted partial breach – in terms of season tickets for 2012/13 only – I see no reason why Ticketus could not have considered the remainder of the contract as valid. Assuming, of course, the CVA had been approved and the club had exited administration.
That said – and though I’m still not 100% convinced – the Scotsman article certainly provides compelling evidence towards your contention that Ticketus had accepted the complete repudiation of their contract with RFC plc prior to the CVA. If only they had posted a statement to that effect on their website, it would be conclusive!
I’m trying to remember where I read it; but there was a statement from Ticketus saying that, for commercial reasons, they would not dispute D&P’s decision to exclude them from the vote – but reserved their right to enter a claim in the liquidation process. This may have been specifically for the vote in relation to the administrators’ fees – I’m not sure.
If I accept that Ticketus did accept the repudiation prior to the CVA (and I’m almost there) there are still a couple of things that don’t seem to fit together and I’m going to have to look at again.
Just not tonight…
The Oxford Dictionary: Definition of Pantomime: an absurdly exaggerated piece of behaviour.
john clarke says:
July 7, 2013 at 9:37 am
Your point exhibits perfectly the difference between us. While many on here (including myself) laugh at the numbnuts who are contented to identify CW as the arch villain, you do likewise with SDM.
Markybhoy
All roads lead to SDM.
And one day it will all be documented.
And sure there is some colour and there are many colourful characters along the way to keep us amused.
But in this tale of empires all roads lead to SDM.
😯 Anybody in ❓
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July 6, 2013 at 2:44 pm
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ecobhoy says:
July 6, 2013 at 12:32 pm
Green re-ignited the torch and I worried about it dragging us backwards but I think his flame has sputtered and died and decent Bears who never trusted him anyway are glad to see the back of him. Btw I don’t actually believe that Green had any concept of the problems he could have caused and the real villain is the one who whispered the poison in his ear. I have no doubt who that individual is as I know him for what he is behind the facade he presents.
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You intrigue me Ecobhoy, and personally I have it narrowed down to one of three people. Of course, it would be inappropriate for us to name names, but anyone who has watched this mess unfold would almost certainly narrow it to the three I’ve got.
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WHO ARE THESE PEOPLE?? 😆
In 2012 the fans of Scottish football made a passionate stance against corruption, directed to the custodians of our national game. This was a real moment of solidarity as scots fans stood up against the SFA’s fear to administer the rules of the game to their favorite club.
The MSM and the establishment media rapidly played down the fans moment of victory with twisted threats and bitter lies, the newspapers and media continued to attack the motives and effect of Scotland’s quiet revolt.
There was a true moment of people power that mutated out of frustration at the lack of action and continued corruption of the SFA and Scottish Media.
A movement led by anti corruption and integrity two motives not in the MSM’s language.
For the first time the Internet let people find the news and discuss material mainstream media will not publish, the web became a powerful tool for freedom.
The revolt and its effect are significant to the Nimmo Smith verdict, the establishment Lords were never going to be in favor of revolution and the success of solidarity among the people.
Mafia House, Nimmo Smith, Hodge, MSM etc. are not there to benefit us hard working folks, they are there to keep themselves and their cronies in work/power by maintaining the status quo.
I would not hold my breath waiting any of the MSM to deliver this story,
They have sided with the spivs and liars throughout the biggest sporting scandal in British history to their utter shame.
What we have though is an insight into the daily propaganda war served up by the media against the population, we have seen the turd on shoe type of respect they have for ordinary folks. You wont get the story in the MSM folks, they are the story, jackanory, Jacks story, his-story…History!
Congratulations to a fellow fitba fan – Andy Murray. An enormous achievement in World Sport.
On Andy Murray, he donated his prize money from Queens to that charity, hence the confusion. Although, to be fair, considering the commercial contracts he’s about to get, he could probably spare a million or so to charity although one would perhaps suggest not to the Rangers charity. I would also suspect he won’t be donating it to save Hearts any time soon either.
A further congrats must also go to Dan Martin, the Irish cyclist who won in the Tour de France yesterday adding that to his win in Liege Bastogne Liege this year. Overshadowed a bit due to Mr Murray, but a magnificent achievement nonetheless.
For those who follow me on twitter, you’ll be aware that I’m following the esteemed Mr Mac Giolla Bhain in writing an actual book on all of this. One of the great things about having a break in employment (at least, for the next three weeks, anyway) is that I’ve been able to get a lot done and am able to pop a draft section up in the hope of some constructive feedback.
So far, I’m at the 11,000 word mark and, in chronological terms, in 2004 in my spin through how Rangers history was consigned to the bin so it is going to clock in at significantly longer than that but, I hope, it will be nearing completion by the time the leaves start dropping.
http://www.thefootballlife.co.uk/post/54903141163/fade-to-whyte-sample
Since its been a slow few days here, I’m just posting to try to give folk a wee bit of their daily fix of TSFM.
I had a retweet from someone of Alex Salmond’s congratulations to Andy Murray. I just had to reply to the First Minister mentioning the sportsmanship of both players and the high standards of sporting values on show, but lamenting that it was a pity that the same wasn’t shown by the SFA and RFC when they were put to the test.
I don’t expect much in the way of a reply though!
It is a slow day for news today. Maybe the heat. News that there is something amiss re The team from Govan and charity money collected should maybe reaise the temperature even higher for those involved. 😳 😳 😳
Could not resist my first usage of the wee smileys…
Captain Haddock says:
July 8, 2013 at 11:34 am
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I felt a wee bit embarrassed for Alex Samond and his pathetic saltire stunt at the tennis to be honest, Grubby attempt at something or other (I say this as I have no idea what his point is) by a desperate politician 🙄
It’s still 77 years since an Englishman has won at Wombled on 😉
The main discussion point to emerge from the blog for me over the last week has been the revelation that the Sky TV deal in 2011 was accepted in a hurry before the imminent demise of Rangers came into full view. It might be argued that a TV deal with Rangers in the SPL was always going to be more lucrative than one without them. However as a result of this expediency the opportunity to launch an SPL TV company was foregone. Such a company would have been more local than the Sky conglomerate and might have been more susceptible to supporters needs. It may even have been that over time SPL TV could have developed the sport more effectively and increased Scottish Football’s marketability.
The characters who made the expedient decision are still embedded at the heart of football governance. We have seen how many of their actions were at least questionable and at most, corrupt. However the web of intrigue stretches much wider and takes in media, business and possibly judiciary. There will be a huge collective will amongst those involved for this all to be forgotten about.
Recent unrelated episodes illustrate what can be achieved when individuals and communities strive for justice. The Hillsborough enquiry and Steven Lawrence affair are obvious illustrations. It now seems that a senior police officer was a common denominator in both these entirely unrelated episodes. A be-knighted public official. The moral is that if you let this stuff go because it is too difficult to unravel, the damage continues further down the line.
I remember watching a major Hillsborough memorial event at Anfield. Government minister Andy Birnham was brave enough and humble enough to suffer the flack and attend. The chairman of the committee, a rather ineloquent, ordinary man, made a rambling speech to the assembled 30,000 in the stadium. At one point during a pause in his delivery a voice in the crowd breached the silence and shouted out appropriately, “we’re still together”. The speaker picked up on this comment from the lone voice in the crowd. “Yes, we’re still together after all these years”.
Much has happened in my life since then but that one, vociferous, pointless voice still echoes through my memory. The comment was so flimsy yet so powerful. “Still together”.
We will know our efforts are pointless and worthless when we retreat back into our own personal seclusion and accept our own powerlessness. Whilst we remain together however, the final outcome cannot be assured. For that web that binds the rogues together does not enjoy the camaraderie of a community who feel they are acting in the best interests of all. They are acting in their own self-interest. They will see no positives in their malfeasance being exposed. They would happily see corruption reign and justice trampled underfoot. What a terrible prospect.
We’re not going anywhere. If the journo’s thought the lamb was succulent then they might just wish to consider how juicy the details of this plot are for a populace that has been starved of the facts for probably decades. The information age has made the world prone to rapid and sudden change. You never know what’s round the next corner.
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These smileys are brilliant!
Castofthousands says:
July 8, 2013 at 12:31 pm
They would happily see corruption reign and justice trampled underfoot. What a terrible prospect.
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And that’s why we are here and not going anywhere till we get the whole truth out there – and one day we will!
The tennis was on for almost five hours yesterday, fantastic game.Salmond flag on for less than three seconds.
My word! Politician jumps at photo opportunity! Briefly waves national flag! Shock! Horror!
Deary me, get a grip.
Whole incident totally ignored by international press of course …it seems the Scottish cringe is still alive and kicking.
sportswear says:
July 8, 2013 at 10:44 am
” You wont get the story in the MSM folks, they are the story, jackanory, Jacks story, his-story…History!
Just Brilliant !