The following post comes about as a result of the research and work put in by Auldheid.
He has drafted the submission to FIFA detailed below after closely looking at their rules, and taking on board the points contained in the Glasnost “Golden Rule” blog. TSFM has attached the blog’s name to the report since the overwhelming – but not unanimous – view of our readership is that the SFA and the SPL have again gotten themselves into an almighty and embarrassingly amateur fankle over this issue.
We believe that tens of thousands of football fans will be lost to the game if the outcome of the LNS enquiry is not perceived to be commensurate with the scope and extent of the rule breaking that LNS found had taken place. In view of this, we believe that we have to do what we can to explore all possibilities for justice for those who love the game so much and yet are utterly disillusioned by recent events.
LNS is not being questioned here. He has found that RFC were guilty as charged by the SPL.
What is being questioned is the SFA’s crucial – and seemingly conflicted – role in the LNS enquiry, as is the effectiveness of LNS’s recommended sanction as either a deterrent or an upholder of sporting integrity.
It came to our notice last week that FIFA have created a web site at
https://www.bkms-system.net/bkwebanon/report/clientInfo?cin=6fifa61&language=eng
that tells us that FIFA have implemented a regulatory framework which is intended to ensure that all statutory rules, rules of conduct and internal guidelines of FIFA are respected and complied with.
In support of that regulatory framework FIFA have set up the above site as a reporting mechanism by means of which inappropriate behaviour and infringements of the pertinent regulations may be reported.
FIFA say that their jurisdiction encompasses misconduct that (1) relates to match manipulation; (2) occurs in or affects more than one confederation, so that it cannot adequately be addressed by a single confederation; or (3) would ordinarily be addressed by a confederation or association, but, under the particular facts at issue, has not been or is unlikely to be dealt with appropriately at that level.
Discussions arising from the previous blog on TSFM, “Gilt Edged Justice”, which was published after Lord Nimmo Smith (LNS) ruled on the registration of Rangers players who had contractual side letters that were not disclosed to the SFA as part of their registration, suggest that there may be possible unfortunate consequences for football arising from the evidence presented by the SFA to the LNS enquiry that informed its findings on registration and consequent eligibility. There is also a question of the propriety of the SFA providing evidence on an issue which could have had a negative impact on them had it been found that they had failed to carrying out their registration duties with due rigour over a period of ten years when the existence of EBTs was known to officials within the SFA.
On the basis that the LNS findings require that registration rules be clarified by FIFA and rewritten globally if necessary to remove any ambiguity and under clause 3 above, this appears to be an issue that the FIFA should examine and that the SFA cannot address.
The following report has therefore been submitted by TSFM on behalf of its readers to FIFA drawing on the content and debate following the “Gilt Edged Justice” blog in respect of the possible footballing consequences of the LNS enquiry.
The hope is that by speaking for so many supporters, FIFA will give the TSFM submission some weight, but individuals are free of course to make their own points in their own way. We await acknowledgement of the submission.
The report Submitted to FIFA is as follows;
This report was prepared on behalf of the 10,000-strong readership of The Scottish Football Monitor at http://scottishfootballmonitor.wordpress.com/
It is our belief that FIFA general rules of conduct were breached by the SFA and their employees in both creating and then advising The Lord Nimmo Smith (LNS) enquiry into the non disclosure of full payment information to the Scottish Football Association (SFA) by Rangers F.C during a period of player registration over 10 years from 2000.We believe that although the issue has been addressed by the SFA the particular facts at issue suggest that it has not been dealt with appropriately and we therefore ask FIFA to investigate. The facts at issue are that the process and advice given failed to uphold sporting integrity, and that a conflict of interest was at play.
We believe the advice provided and the enquiry set up, where SFA both advised and is the appellant body, breaches not only the integrity the registration rules were intended to uphold, but also totally undermines the integrity of the SFA in breach of General Conduct rules 1, 2 and 4. (See below.)
1. Firstly we believe that the advice supplied to LNS that an incorrectly registered player was eligible to play as long as the registration was accepted by the SFA however unwittingly, undermines the intent of the SPL/SFA rules on player registration and so undermines the integrity of football in three ways.
• It incentivises clubs to apply for a player to be registered even if they know that the conditions of registration are not satisfied, in the hope that the application will somehow ‘slip through the net’ and be granted anyway (in which case it will be valid until revoked).
• A club which discovers that it has made an error in its application is incentivized to say nothing and to ‘let sleeping dogs lie’ – because it would be in a better position by not confessing its mistake.
• And most importantly, it incentivises fraud. By deliberately concealing relevant information, a club can ensure that a player who does not satisfy the registration conditions is treated as being eligible – and therefore allowed to play – for as long as a period as possible (potentially his entire spell with the club). Then, if the club is no longer around when the deception is finally discovered, imposing meaningful sanctions may be impossible.
2. Secondly we believe the process followed was inappropriate due to a Conflict of Interest. Had the LNS enquiry not ruled on the basis of advice supplied by The SFA, they and those persons advising the LNS enquiry, could have been subjected to censure and the SFA to potential compensation claims had LNS found that the players were indeed ineligible to play and results then been annulled as was SFA practice when an ineligible player played.
3. Finally we contend that a law should not be applied according to its literal meaning if to do so would lead to an absurdity or a manifest injustice or in this case loss of football integrity.
See http://glasnostandapairofstrikers.wordpress.com/2013/03/07/gilt-edged-justice/4. We therefore ask FIFA to investigate both the process used and advice given to Lord Nimmo Smith to satisfy themselves that FIFA’s intentions with regard to upholding the integrity of football under FIFA rules have not been seriously damaged by the LNS findings and also to reassure Scottish football supporters that the integrity of our game has not been sacrificed by the very authority in whose care it has been placed to promote the short term cause of commercialism to the games long term detriment.
General Rules of Conduct (These are taken from the FIFA web site itself and can be found as part of completing the submission process)
1. Persons bound by this Code are expected to be aware of the importance of their duties and concomitant obligations and responsibilities.
2. Persons bound by this Code are obliged to respect all applicable laws and regulations as well as FIFA’s regulatory framework to the extent applicable to them.
3. N/A
4. Persons bound by this Code may not abuse their position in any way, especially to take advantage of their position for private aims or gains.
Auldheid (@Auldheid) says:
Monday, March 25, 2013 at 12:36
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I did post a few weeks back that Charles had every chance of taking his case to the European courts and winning….however…he needed to realise the following..
The UK is made up of 4 national associations and they would need to be dissolved and merged into 1 UK Football Association…this is what most of Africa and a serious number of European Nations have been asking for…as they see the UK as 1 country with 4 votes on the FIFA council…
What Charles is saying is ….he wants the English FA to be dissolved/scrapped/ended…as well as the SFA…the WFA…and the NIFA…
Now what would be interesting is the opinion of a senior member of each association…I am surprised no one from the Scottish MSM has thought…”lets phone the English FA for a comment”…or is it the fear of being told…”no chance”…because the English FA will resist this with everything they have at their disposal..
Can you see Charlie payment large legal fees when he might not win? Naw me neither!
M8 Dreamer,
We have just had Charles Green’s monthly statement of “The Rangers” joining the English Football Leagues once more.
No possible suggestion from the SFA/SPL that he may be “Bringing the Game into Disrepute” with his continual statements of “The Rangers” leaving Scottish Football.
For the future sake of Scottish Football, please take your morally corrupt football club, supporters, MSM, etc to any of the following locations at the earliest possible date.
1. England
2. Northern Ireland
3. Holland
4. Any other country that will tolerate this organisation and everything else that goes with it.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-glasgow-west-21924420
tomtomaswell says:
Monday, March 25, 2013 at 15:37
torrejohnbhoy says:
Monday, March 25, 2013 at 12:31
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From Rangers Rumours:
25 Mar 2013 10:13:12
“RANGERS have sent a delegation on a top-secret scouting mission to HONDURAS.
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So much for keeping it a secret then
More chance of them going to visit Honda’s”r”us to ask them to take some track-side advertising. Saturday’s adverts were like an issue of exchange and mart with some local takeaways and car washes thrown in.
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They are still trying to remain relevent and playing with the big boys….
A delegation?…Governments send delagations (very glamerous)….Football clubs send scouts (not so glamerous)
Top secret?…something only a handful of people are meant to know (important stuff) especially top secrets (really important stuff)…telling everything stops it being a secret (boring)
Mission to Honduras…sounds very 007…..Scouting in Honduras…is something entirley different!
When did RFC PLC get taking to task by the SFA for not paying tax – i believe the club and CW himself received fines for this non payment of tax
Can we expect DAFC to get the same treatment?
Probably already posted, but from yesterday’s Observer:
Theme of the week: football’s relationship with public money:
• Club of the week: AEK Athens, facing action over £145m in unpaid taxes, with arrest warrants issued for “all AEK presidents from 2004 to 2012”.
bailemeanach
I wonder if a certain Sir would have dropped and smashed a few plates when reading that
jonnyod
what struck me was the similarity in the time period, and the value of debt (ok accepted that Rangers wasn’t all tax)
What also struck me was that the Greeks have gone for arrest warrants for those running the business.
Sorry not had a chance to do any more digging into the story
STV Sport @STVSport 2h
SFL board member admits it looks too late for league re-shuffle http://bit.ly/ZPVZh1
jonnyod
the plate smashing reference has just landed!
what a tragedy
bailemeanach
The FTT decision has been appealed so the final figure could very well be in the same range
arrest warrants for those running the business ,I wouldn’t hold my breath ,not in this soap opera
m8dreamer says:
Monday, March 25, 2013 at 16:32
We have just had Charles Green’s monthly statement of “The Rangers” joining the English Football Leagues once more.
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What is now blatantly clear is that with the title stripping card no longer left to play, Green has a weekly slot he has to fill to try and keep his club relevant. Two weeks ago their turnover was announced as heading towards £100M in five years. Last week the rant against league reconstruction was wheeled out again, and this week we have a moonbeams tale David Murray would have been proud of. Not only do EPL Chairmen secretly want TRFC in their league, but the club would be worth 1 billion pounds if it was there. Despite that, Green claims he’d rather start much lower down. How does that square with his oft repeated declaration of staying at Ibrox until the CL music blares from the sound system? The man is utterly ridiculous, matched only in his ridiculousness by Sports Editors willing to repeat his nonsense verbatim without a hint of dissent.
Look who has been re appointed at Wavetower. It would appear that the ‘Holding Company’ of Rangers FC are alive and well.
Question for the MSM:
If the holding company is still trading then what is being liquidated down Govan way?
http://t.co/w2qK3KWuhd
SPL likely to lose a claim for £1.7M
Hope CG gets this cross border league sorted out – the scottish league could be dead soon
from BBC
SPL faces £1.7m claim over ‘foreign broadcast’ dispute
The Scottish Premier League (SPL) is facing a £1.7m damages claim over its legal bid to stop a pub group screening live matches via a Polish broadcaster.
The SPL secured a court order in 2007 preventing Lisini Pub Management showing games at ex-Celtic star Harry Hood’s bar, Angels, in Uddingston.
It was recalled after the European Court found a similar ban in England was a restriction on competition.
A judge has now rejected the SPL’s bid to have Lisini’s claim thrown out.
The SPL had granted rights to Polsat to broadcast its matches in Poland in 2006 and 2007.
Lawyers acting for the SPL had written to Lisini in 2006 referring to the Copyright, Designs and Patents Act of 1988 claiming that possession of a decoder and smart card, used to access the broadcast signal, was unlawful.
Premier League dispute
Lisini maintained it did not receive the letter.
As proceedings continued both sides became aware of a significant ruling by the European Court of Justice (ECJ).
It had been referred a case by the High Court in London which involved a pub in Portsmouth showing Premier League games using a Greek decoder.
Continue reading the main story
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An EC citizen living in say Germany should not be prevented from obtaining a signal from Sky, BBC, RAI, Nova or Polsat”
Lord Woolman
Judge
The ECJ held that clauses banning the use of foreign decoders and smart cards were void and amounted to a restriction on competition.
Anti-competitive provisions of European law prevailed over the 1988 act.
Lisini applied to have the earlier interim interdict recalled, which the SPL did not oppose and Lord Woolman granted the motion at the Court of Session in Edinburgh last year.
The judge said both parties revised their pleadings to a significant degree after he allowed them a period to adjust, with the SPL restricting its claim to an interdict based on the undertaking.
Lisini chose to lodge a counterclaim maintaining that the interim interdict was wrongful and seeking damages of £1,761,749.
The judge said he would dismiss the SPL action as he considered the undertaking “implicitly fell” at the same time as the interdict was withdrawn.
But he rejected a bid by the SPL to have the counterclaim thrown out.
‘Restrict competition’
Lord Woolman said: “In my view the English Premier League case has an important bearing on the present action.”
The ECJ decision meant that subscribers in European member states were entitled to access broadcast signals from other member states.
“An EC citizen living in say Germany should not be prevented from obtaining a signal from Sky, BBC, RAI, Nova or Polsat,” he said.
“In my view the ECJ has held that the object of such agreements is to restrict competition,” said the judge.
Lord Woolman said that was enough to provide Lisini with, at first sight, a case under European Union functioning treaty provisions.
The judge said a further hearing would take place to discuss future procedure.
CelticResearch @CelticResearch 3m
Very poor by Graham Spiers and the BBC tonight on Dunfermline. Here is Spiers asking who cares about Dunfermline? http://snd.sc/YArcp0
One year on and Whitehouse finally gets his hands on something to sweep it all under
http://www.accountancyage.com/aa/news/2252723/duff-phelps-appointed-to-carpet-business-axminster?WT.rss_f=Business+recovery&WT.rss_a=Duff+%26+Phelps+appointed+to+carpet+business+Axminster
Pretty disgraceful that Charlie’s latest regurgitation kept Eve Muirhead and her team of World Champions off the front page of the Record today.
I have just witnessed H Keevins on SSB say not once but twice tonight that
sporting integrity is for chancers ,maybe I have missed something here but is there not more of a chance of attracting chancers without sporting integrity . with spin like that ,I feel giddy
nurse where’s ma pills
Could we not have a sports editor of the month plonker award ,I know there will prob be a few tied for this each month ,but the annual award will sort this out and they could be sent the trophy ,something along the lines of the 3 wise monkeys,hear no evil,speak no evil and certainly wont print no evil.
Green is clearly a serial attention seeker.This mince of wanting to join the English Football League is the latest ploy to keep the slavering supplicants happy.(That goes for the supporters as well).Not quite on the same ‘aye right’ level as casinos,hotels,and hover pitches ,but getting there.They really have no shame.(except Manchester,Villareal et al)
paulmac2 says:
Monday, March 25, 2013 at 16:31
Yup loss of four national sides would be the price of a UK league. Given none of the four national sides has much chance of winning anything major is that such a bad thing?
Produce the players and they will be selected. Provide a league where the best players get better then who is to say there would not be Scots amongst the selection? Gareth Bale would be a shoo in to a UK team at present.
The English FA would still have a say on the international stage and if a strong UK team emerged the one vice would be a strong one.
Omelette eggs stuff.
vice? Freudian slip.
voice.
IMO there are many flaws in CG plan to flit to the south but the biggest one for me is that,
they have their own officials down there ,beware what you wish for chuckles .
Auldheid
For what it is worth I agree that one UK league and one UK team is worth consideration.
We’d get to have a bonfire of a large chunk of our current three establishment minded administrations.
And there is nothing to stop us still having home internationals.
Carfins Finest. (@edunne58) says:
Monday, March 25, 2013 at 19:28
Look who has been re appointed at Wavetower. It would appear that the ‘Holding Company’ of Rangers FC are alive and well.
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Rangers Football Club were the holding company of Rangers Football Club, weren’t they? Wavetower weren’t – they were just the holding company of Rangers Football Club.
See?
(insert “plc”, “Ltd”, “entity”, etc, as you see fit.)
Auldheid (@Auldheid) says:
Monday, March 25, 2013 at 20:15
Yup loss of four national sides would be the price of a UK league. Given none of the four national sides has much chance of winning anything major is that such a bad thing?
Produce the players and they will be selected. Provide a league where the best players get better then who is to say there would not be Scots amongst the selection? Gareth Bale would be a shoo in to a UK team at present.
The English FA would still have a say on the international stage and if a strong UK team emerged the one vice would be a strong one.
Omelette eggs stuff.
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Interesting scenario but one I would not like to see happen. I think a UK league would only really benefit Celtic and The Rangers as, given the size of the latest EPL TV deal, there is no real financial gain to be had for the English clubs. Indeed two English clubs would lose out in the long run if Celtic and The Rangers made it to the top league. It’s a narrative that’s written purely from a (formally known as) Old firm perspective.
With the exception of Celtic fans who would rather support Ireland than Scotland and The Rangers fans who follow follow England, it seems to me the Welsh support Wales, English support England, the Scots support Scotland….. I suppose it comes down to a question of identity and historically there’s never really been a shared one regarding football. A UK team would be the forced by-product of a UK league with the home nations collateral damage on the back of a few clubs desire to enrich themselves.
Interesting that 100,000 Rangers International shares sold late on 21 March for 72p a share has just been notified on http://www.lse.co.uk
There has been ‘buy’ support since then on 22 and 25 March at 74.60p which is ‘significant’ in terms of the share and usual dealing in it.
Could soon dip below the 70p price paid by fans at this rate – I wonder who’s cashing in and getting out?
Carfins Finest. (@edunne58) says:
Monday, March 25, 2013 at 19:28
Look who has been re appointed at Wavetower. It would appear that the ‘Holding Company’ of Rangers FC are alive and well.
Question for the MSM:
If the holding company is still trading then what is being liquidated down Govan way?
http://t.co/w2qK3KWuhd
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Easy,
Although Wavetower were the “holding company”,they were not,according to Nimmo Smith, the Legal Entity that ran Rangers Football Club.Therefore,Wavetower can still exist,the club can still exist but the “Legal Entity” is being liquidated.
Subsequently,if things continue as they are,we may soon see the holding company of TRFC sailing off into the sunset with all the assets whilst the “Legal Entity” running TRFC enters administration.The club,of course,will continue as before.A new holding company will be found,entry into the SPL will be demanded for the good of Scottish Football and the MSM will pronounce it a historic day for the Fabric of Scotland.
Or maybe it’s getting near to Wee Craig playing his Joker and everyone will know where the Fixed/floating charges are really held?.
He hasn’t re-appeared for no reason.How’s about CG puts the club into administration and courtesy of the floating charges,Whyte,Green and the other spivs in their consortium leave with the property assets,next years ST money and the reported £21m in the bank from the IPO?.
As an addition to my previous post,remember Barcabhoys post of a few days ago,where he reminded us that someone has blocked a move by Whyte to liquidate Wavetower,maybe BDO but we don’t know for sure.
torrejohnbhoy says:
Monday, March 25, 2013 at 22:05
I may have read it wrong but I thought it was Whyte that had blocked the Stock Exchange from striking it off as it had not filed accounts and the question was why would he do this if the company had no value?
Does anyone know where the share issue cash has been banked,hopefully not a Cypriot bank.
justshatered says:
Monday, March 25, 2013 at 22:13
That’s my understanding too, which makes me think that Whyte is still not too far away from this pantomime. You don’t agree to be pantomime villain to walk away empty handed.
Auldheid
For what it is worth I agree that one UK league and one UK team is worth consideration. We’d get to have a bonfire of a large chunk of our current three establishment minded administrations.
And there is nothing to stop us still having home internationals.
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Nothing at all!
Except we might to rename the ‘Home Internationals’ as ‘The United Kingdom and Northern Ireland Internationals’
Scotland – as Northern UK
England – as Southern UK
Wales – as Western UK
Northern Ireland – as Er ..Northern Ireland!
Incredibleadamspark
To say “with the exception of Celtic fans who would rather support Ireland” is wrong.Although most Celtic fans have an emotional allegiance to Ireland in some form or another the majority would I guess support Scotland.
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torrejohnbhoy says:
Monday, March 25, 2013 at 22:05
I may have read it wrong but I thought it was Whyte that had blocked the Stock Exchange from striking it off as it had not filed accounts and the question was why would he do this if the company had no value?
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You might be right.
That’s the point.All we can do is speculate.Did someone not try to liquidate another company involved in this fiascobefore christmas but that was blocked also.Question is,by whom?.
Re Wavetower
I posted on here a week ago about them
http://scottishfootballmonitor.wordpress.com/2013/03/12/fair-play-at-fifa/comment-page-7/#comment-40166
There is an individual on twitter, white_italy , who continually posts inaccurate and poorly researched information . His analysis is consistently way off the mark. The latest incorrect story about Whyte comes from his lack of basic understanding
Whyte is and always has been a director of Wavetower since he bought it as an off the shelf company. Looking back at my post from a week ago shows that there are some questions over this companies continuing existence
http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/bankrupt-stockbroker-nicholas-levene-who-1784703?
Not strictly true Barca.
Whyte only became a director (at least in the legal sense) in Feb 11 some 6 months after Ellis set up Wavetower. Both Whyte and Ellis are still showing up as the directors of Wavetower but their parent company is shown as Liberty Capital Plc. However when you check on them they are in turn owned by a company called INTU Properties Plc. Whyte does not show up on any of these company’s. Very strange indeed
Whyte has however been a busy little bee recently. On 12 Mar he set up four new companies in concert with a firm called Gold Manson Ltd of Florida. The businesses are:
Law Capital Co No 08441478
Law Financial Co No 08440073
Litigation Capital Co No 08441446
Media Litigation Co No 08441447
Who the hell knows he’s up to? Why would Wavetower have a parent company?
Lots more to come out of this methinks.
Tomtomaswell
The equity in Wavetower is 100 % owned by Liberty Capital, based in he BVI.
There is nothing I have seen which mentions Intu Properties in connection with Wavetower or Rangers. They do own a UK subsidiary called Liberty Capital, however that has no connection with the BVI operation . At least none that is registered in he UK. Intu themselves show no link to Wavetower in their subsidiaries report
Whyte became a Director of Wavetower as soon as it became at trading company. It was previously a shelf company set up by Jordan Nominees , with one of their people as the nominated director. Ellis bought it off the shelf, but still never traded until Whyte/ Liberty Capital in the BVI came on boards few months later
Please correct me if I’m wrong…
CW purchased Old Rangers for a quid from SDM.
He did this using a company as the vehicle, Wavetower. Andrew Ellis was also involved.
(I read once that the split was 75% CW and 25% AE)
Wavetower was and is owned by another company, Liberty Capital Plc.
He used Ticketus cash to lodge funds with LBG – paying off the £18m overdraft (a condition of the sale). He didnt really bother with any other conditions of the sale.
The club, at the time, then owed him (his company) £18m, as secured creditor, a status attained from LBG.
Ticketus got rights to season ticket sales for the next 4 yrs – rights which they subsequently lost.
Even though the Old Rangers have ended as a club, the creditors owed money might get some back, depending on how much BDO, the liquidators can eke out of the situation.
Wavetower remains secured creditor, and so is first in the queue for any funds that might be paid to creditors.
The fact that the shares bought by CW from SDM are now worthless, as Old Rangers is now in liquidation, does not affect CW’s company’s secured creditor status.
Incredibleadamspark: can you just clarify what you meant when you posted “with the exception of Celtic fans who would rather support Ireland than Scotland…”? My assumption is that you meant with the exception of some Celtic fans who would rather… as clearly not all Celtic fans are supporters of Ireland over Scotland. Why would fans of Celtic who are, for instance, Irish, not support Ireland? Would you expect Korean fans Man United or Russian fans of Chelsea to support England? That makes no sense.
http://www.lifesapitch.co.uk/opinions/why-rangers-chief-executive-charles-green-must-be-stopped/
Barca,
You might be correct, I don’t know. All I can tell you is what I can lift from Risk Disk which I use to do credit checks on businesses that I trade with. They may however have mistaken Liberty Capital for some other entity but in general they are normally on the ball with this kinda stuff. Below is a summary of what they have listed:
Company Name: THE RANGERS FC GROUP LIMITED
Registration Number: 07380537
Registered Office: 4 BEDFORD ROW, LONDON, WC1R 4DF
Date of Incorporation: 17 Sep 2010
Latest Annual Return: 17 Sep 2011 Accounts Reference Date: 30 Apr
Date Accounts Lodged: Issued Capital: £1
Latest Filed Accounts Date: Next Accounts Due Date: 17 Jun 2012
Company Type: Private Limited
English/Welsh Company
Type of Accounts:
Trading Address:
Telephone Number:
Auditor Comment:
Principal Activities:
UK SIC Code(s): 7415: Holding Companies Including Head Offices
Parent: 06451250 : LIBERTY CAPITAL PLC
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Company Name: LIBERTY CAPITAL PLC
Registration Number: 06451250
Registered Office: 40 BROADWAY, LONDON, SW1H 0BT
Date of Incorporation: 12 Dec 2007
Latest Annual Return: 12 Dec 2012 Accounts Reference Date: 31 Dec
Date Accounts Lodged: 28 Jun 2012 Issued Capital: £2
Latest Filed Accounts Date: 31 Dec 2011 Next Accounts Due Date: 30 Jun 2013
Company Type: Public Limited
English/Welsh Company
Type of Accounts: Dormant
Trading Address:
Telephone Number:
Auditor Comment: No
Principal Activities: DORMANT.
UK SIC Code(s): 7484: Other Business Activities Not Elsewhere Classified
Parent: 03685527 : INTU PROPERTIES PLC
Ultimate Holding Co: 03685527 : INTU PROPERTIES PLC
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Company Name: INTU PROPERTIES PLC
Registration Number: 03685527
Registered Office: 40 BROADWAY, LONDON, SW1H 0BT
Date of Incorporation: 14 Dec 1998
Latest Annual Return: 30 Nov 2012 Accounts Reference Date: 31 Dec
Date Accounts Lodged: 09 Mar 2012 Issued Capital: £434,236,500
Latest Filed Accounts Date: 31 Dec 2011 Next Accounts Due Date: 30 Jun 2013
Company Type: Public Limited
English/Welsh Company
Type of Accounts: Group
Trading Address:
Telephone Number:
Auditor Comment: No
Principal Activities: CAPITAL SHOPPING CENTRES.
UK SIC Code(s): 6523: Other Financial Intermediation
Apologies to all if this info is duff 😀
tomtomaswell says:
Tuesday, March 26, 2013 at 10:32
Apologies to all if this info is duff
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tt
your info is not duff but it does not refer to Whytes Liberty Capital which is NOT registered at Companies House
One frequent dodge of Spivs is to name their scam cos after similar sounding respectable cos
Pick any of the Spivs associated with RIFC or TRFC and run a quick Directorship check on the cos they have been associated with in their careers and you will no doubt get more examples of this deliberate obfustcation
Goosy,
I get that but I’m baffled as to how a company like RiskDisk would get the two mixed up if that’s the case.
On a slightly different tack, it’s now becoming noticeable that Mr Green’s weekly nonsense has been designed to keep TRFC in the news for reasons other than their team being rubbish.
Half-truths, pure nonsense, speculation, empty promises. Regular as clockwork – as soon as TRFC drop out of the public eye, he comes out with another whopper.
Once TRFC win their league, they will become even less newsworthy. Therefore, I predict that Mr Green’s nonsense will increase to levels as yet unknown.
This should, at least, be hugely entertaining – and I for one am looking forward to it with my feet up, a bag of crisps and a bottle of Moray Cup.
tomtomaswell says: Tuesday, March 26, 2013 at 10:32
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This was all documented some time ago on RTC. The parent company of Wavetower/TRFCG is Liberty Capital LTD, not PLC.
The RiskDisk info is incorrect as was Duedil.com in identifying the parent as the PLC version of Liberty Capital.
That is where the original “billionaire” or “wealth of the radar” claims about Whyte came from. Liberty Capital PLC was part of a property group which owned amongst other sites, the Braehead Shopping Centre.
stuartcosgrove says:
Monday, March 25, 2013 at 11:15
I agree Auldheid. We tend to forget that European legislation permits not only freedom of labour movement but also a fair and free market within company law, procurement and access to markets.
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Removing UEFA and FIFA objections to cross border movement by football teams still leaves the problem of acceptance by other leagues.
The Premiership and English FA has stressed again and again that Celtic/Rangers will not be admitted to any level of English football.
That attitude protects their current membership and is understandable.
Can’t see them changing that stance.
angus1983 says:
Tuesday, March 26, 2013 at 13:11
“Therefore, I predict that Mr Green’s nonsense will increase to levels as yet unknown.”
What could these levels be?
Are New Rangers to buy over a small Polynesian nation/ group of islands to act as feeder islands into the Murray Park setup?
Or are they to seek a similar status for Ibrox as the Vatican has in Italy – Ibrox is to be its own country with its own various rules/laws?
In other news, I hear that Masterton has had a team of removals guys go into the East End Pak offices and remove all the blinds.
One member of the office staff was heard to comment that ‘it looks like it’ll be curtains noo’.
easyJambo says:
Tuesday, March 26, 2013 at 13:14
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tomtomaswell says: Tuesday, March 26, 2013 at 10:32
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This was all documented some time ago on RTC. The parent company of Wavetower/TRFCG is Liberty Capital LTD, not PLC.
The RiskDisk info is incorrect as was Duedil.com in identifying the parent as the PLC version of Liberty Capital.
That is where the original “billionaire” or “wealth of the radar” claims about Whyte came from. Liberty Capital PLC was part of a property group which owned amongst other sites, the Braehead Shopping Centre.
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Thanks for this.
Jim Leishman confirms that Dunfermline will seek to go into Administration, with the administrator’s fees paid for by fans.
Bryan Jackson of PKF will be the administrator if the HMRC and the court approves.
ianagain says:
Tuesday, March 26, 2013 at 10:26
http://www.lifesapitch.co.uk/opinions/why-rangers-chief-executive-charles-green-must-be-stopped/
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And so it begins….I did say yesterday The English FA will be robust in their resistance to Charlie’s mummblings…
Now if only the Scottish media would have more about them to challenge the comments of this individual…
easyJambo says:
Tuesday, March 26, 2013 at 13:51
Bryan Jackson of PKF will be the administrator if the HMRC and the court approves.
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Anyone know what the points deduction will be for the pars?
It will be interesting to see if HMRC continue to pursue the Winding Up order or if they will accept the Administration proposal from the club.
The club itself has few assets as the ground is owned by a separate entity in “East End Park Ltd”, one of Gavin Masteron’s Charlestown Holdings Cos.
At least Admin would allow the club to see out the season and ensure “integrity” of the league and not impact the promotion scrap between Morton and Partick.
paulmac2 says: Tuesday, March 26, 2013 at 13:55
Anyone know what the points deduction will be for the pars?
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I don’t think the SFL has a set figure, so I would expect a 10-15 point penalty for a “first offence”.
Dundee’s 25 point penalty was the result of a second administration within a few years.
Looks like points deduction may be adhoc and at the discretion of the SFL
The Board shall have full power to deal with as it thinks fit, including power
to deduct Championship points before or during a season and/or to impose
a player registration embargo on a Member whom it finds to be guilty of
conduct contrary to the interests of the League and its Members or which
is potentially likely to prejudice the orderly progress of the League
Championship and/or the League Challenge Cup Competition in any
season. For the avoidance of doubt such conduct may include a Member
being in or taking steps to enter or being subject to proceedings which may
result in the Member entering Administration, Liquidation, Sequestration,
or having a receiver or judicial factor or trustee appointed to it or to
substantially all of its assets, or becoming subject to any other form of
insolvency procedure or arrangement or compromise with or for the benefit
of its creditors. For the further avoidance of doubt, a Member in or going
in to any such process will remain responsible for the purposes of these
Rules for the conduct of its undertaking by any Administrator, Liquidator,
Receiver, Trustee, Factor or Supervisor or any other such officer appointed
to it or to its undertaking.
I have a request to make. Dunfermline Athletic entering administration is a huge event. It will mean that people lose their jobs, and a fine, honourable institution will be diminished. Please, can we hold off side tracking the importance of this event by saying eg, Dunfermline lost 20 players why didn’t Rangers lose any?
By all means, compare and contrast in days to come, but don’t make Dunfermline’s administration a Rangers story.
Thoughts to the entire staff at Dunfermline Athletic Football Club.
A sad day for them, a sad day for the history of the Scottish League and for the fans of the Fife Club.
..And another thing, Killie related for once!
Jim Jefferies has managed several clubs over the past twenty years, and Dunfermline may be his last job. It is a sad end to an excellent managerial career. I remain in no doubt that Kilmarnock would have gone into administration had Jefferies not been our manager at the time. Have you ever heard of a squad of players take a opay cut across the board and NOT ONE asked to leave? It is a testamen to the team spirit he, Billy Brown and Gary Locke engendered at that time. Kilmarnock have a lot to be grateful to Jim.
His weakness was always his reluctance to trust youth, and young players failed to blossom under his management. I give you two examples of this; Liam Kelly, who Jeffereis signed, but never gave him even a minute’s first team action in a struggling team. Jimmy Calderwood came in, played Kelly in his first game and Kelly was never dropped.
The other notable Jefferies signing who failed to bloom while he was in charge was Conor Sammon. Sammon was, and I don’t apologise for the dreadful pun, a fish out of water until Mixu Paatelainen gave him 1 to 1 coaching and the player who was truly dreadful in his first 18 months at Rugby Park will replace Robbie Keane in the Republic of Ireland starting XI tonight!
I trust Dunfermline will be back soon, but if JJ isn’t a part of that I wish him well for his future.
killiemad says:
Tuesday, March 26, 2013 at 14:26
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I have a request to make. Dunfermline Athletic entering administration is a huge event. It will mean that people lose their jobs, and a fine, honourable institution will be diminished. Please, can we hold off side tracking the importance of this event by saying eg, Dunfermline lost 20 players why didn’t Rangers lose any?
By all means, compare and contrast in days to come, but don’t make Dunfermline’s administration a Rangers story.
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totally agree with the sentiment, however, comparisons to how the administration is conducted and teh behaviour of the SFA/SFL/Media are inevitable.
this event will highlight the media complicity in how the RFC situation arose in the 1st place.
I expect most media commentators to simply dismiss dunfermline as a diddy team and no one caring about them – the contrast in attitudes will be stark.
From Superstardj on KDS. Workable?
Let’s just imagine for a moment that Charles Green got his way and the English leagues were forced to allow the TRFC to join their league system. With the borders down, surely any club from England would be free to join the Scottish leagues?
So while TRFC languish in the 8th tier of English football, we could have 10/12 teams from the midlands and north of England joining our league structure.
With the real possibility of silverware and even Champions League football for them, we could be playing against quality teams, in packed stadiums, with a highly competitive league, whilst TRFC battle their way to the Conference league, which, with their current squad they wouldn’t have a chance in hell of getting promoted from.
I agree comparisons with RFC are inevitable and any journalist worth their salt would wish to dig deep into the processes of administration and how they impact on the game.
The DAFC and RFC plights are inextricably interlinked and the level of insight and analysis offered in this forum should be replicated in the mainstream media.
If only
Dunfermline are just the latest in a long line of clubs that have lived outwith their means and bought success for years. While my club Falkirk enjoys a healthy (and at times bitter) rivalry with DAFC I can’t help but have little sympathy for them. Falkirk are struggling to pay back soft loans and keep what largely amounts to an under 19s team on the park. When I see clubs like DAFC above us in the league in this sort of trouble I have a hell mend them attitude. Live within your means or go down the tubes. I wish we could afford Jim Jeffries to manage Falkirk but I know we couldn’t afford him. Why? We pay HMRC and everyone else what they are owed. I can however, have sympathy for the real fans and of course employees.
the whole RFC admin & subsequent almost liquidation stank to high heaven still does, duff&duffer put in charge at axminster carpets and the first thing they done was make 300 redundant why?,will be sad to see DAFC go dont listen to the SMSM liquidation is the end ,sevco-scotland are a tributeclub who bought the bricks& mortar can DAFC find someone as good as the snakeoilcharmer cant see it ,
To any journalists out there Masterton ,Murray and their relationship with the bank.
Is that too difficult for you?
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/scotland/21944793
jim leishman – we’re trying to avoid liquidation, liquidation means you’ve got nothing, it’s all gone, so that’s why were trying to avoid liquidation.
i thought that liquidation meant you could just carry on as before – like nothing happened – keep calm and carry on…
ratethisthenyabampots says:
Tuesday, March 26, 2013 at 15:30
Dunfermline are just the latest in a long line of clubs that have lived outwith their means and bought success for years. While my club Falkirk enjoys a healthy (and at times bitter) rivalry with DAFC I can’t help but have little sympathy for them. Falkirk are struggling to pay back soft loans and keep what largely amounts to an under 19s team on the park. When I see clubs like DAFC above us in the league in this sort of trouble I have a hell mend them attitude. Live within your means or go down the tubes. I wish we could afford Jim Jeffries to manage Falkirk but I know we couldn’t afford him. Why? We pay HMRC and everyone else what they are owed. I can however, have sympathy for the real fans and of course employees.
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I think you are being a wee bit unfair, ratethisthenyabampots. While in the present Falkirk may be surviving, they have had a fair few financial setbacks, and only a couple of years ago appeared to be heading towards administration, which happily they avoided. In my recall they were placed in the hands of an administrator in the mid nineties, were they not? As I remember, £2.8 million was owed at that point.
And regards keeping an under 19 team on the park, I was told that when struggling to put a team on the park last Saturday, having had to call up several youngsters, the average age of the Falkirk team was around 23 years: hardly wholesale inexperience.
My main point: almost every club is struggling, but the news should be how the Pars have reached this point, the whole story revolving, it seems, around the machinations of Gavin Masterton.
jimlarkin says:
Tuesday, March 26, 2013 at 16:22
i thought that liquidation meant you could just carry on as before – like nothing happened – keep calm and carry on…
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Only if D&P has prepared the way in administration 🙂
On a bad day for Scottish Football I have to say I was proud to see the Tartan Army stripped to their kilts clearing snow off the pitch to try and get tonight’s game on – they really are something special but it’s because they’re fans who follow a team and not suits who suck the lifeblood and integrity out of our game.
…which reminds me…
Has Ogilvie resigned yet ?
Which reminds me….the three amigos have been awfully quiet of late. Hampden silence is deafening.
They’d be the 3 amoebas rantinrobin
Hargreave Hale Limited had 4,949,000 shares (8.58%) – just under 1% less than the Tetley tit – in December, and was the biggest shareholder after Green. But now he has none? :ponder:
I suppose the obvious questions are; to whom, and why have I not read about it in the local rags? 🙂
Amoebas shurely not …something indefinite in shape or perpetually changing, like an amoeba,,maybe a parasitic genus (Entamoeba) found in higher animals and humans